Lt. Werner Schmidt, 1/KG55

[Nikita Egorov]

Gentleman,

Does anyone have detailed info on combat career of Lt. Werner Schmidt, 1/KG55, who was listed as missing with his crew on January 20, 1943 in Gumrak area (Stalingrad)?

TIA

[Nikita Egorov]

BTW, just checked, Lt. Werner Schmidt is also listed as injured on Jan 22, 1943 flying with 2/KG55. Is this another discrapancy in GQ loss returns?

[Brian Bines]

Qm's returns for 8-2-43 shows a Ltn. Hans Schmidt of 2/KG55 wounded on 2-2-43.

[Nikita Egorov]

Yes. But I'am talking about this cases:

1943-01-20 He 111H-6 7018 G1+EH 1./KG 55 Gumrak
Flugzeugführer Lt Schmidt, Werner vermißt
Beobachter Uffz Kocher, Richard vermißt
Bordfunker Obgfr Gärmer, Werner vermißt
Bordmechaniker Fw Neugebauer, Fritz vermißt
Bordschütze Uffz Wentsch, Erwin vermißt
Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.

1943-01-22 2./KG 55 Gawrilowka
Flugzeugführer Lt Schmidt, Werner verletzt
Erdabwehr. Bruch ? %.

[yogybär]

Maybe he was posted as missing on 20.01.43, an then reappeared wounded 2 days later.

After that, he still was heroic and got wounded again.

At least in todays Germany already a small wound (i.e. bloody nose) is enough to be called "wounded".

One more thing: The name "Schmidt" is as common in Germany as "Smith" in english-speaking countries or "Ivan" in Russia .

[Doug Stankey]

Our notes come up with two possibilities, either of which doesn’t quite seem to fit the guy you describe:

SCHMIDT, Werner.
(DOB: 06.07.11).
01.04.42 promo to Hptm.
21.08.43 Hptm., appt Staka 9./KG 55 (to 08.05.45).
19.08.44 Hptm., awarded Ritterkreuz, Staka 9./KG 55.
Credited with 365 combat missions during the war.
† 13.07.97 in Friedrichsdorf/Taunus.


SCHMIDT, Werner-Artur.
(DOB: 01.05.20 in Potsdam).
01.04.42 promo to Oblt.
31.08.43 Oblt., awarded DKG, 7./KG 55.
01.06.44 in KG 55, promo to Hptm.



Good luck!

LdZ
DGS

[Nikita Egorov]

Doug,

Thank you for info!

[Andy Fletcher]

Originally Posted by Doug Stankey

Our notes come up with two possibilities, either of which doesn’t quite seem to fit the guy you describe:

SCHMIDT, Werner.
(DOB: 06.07.11).
01.04.42 promo to Hptm.
21.08.43 Hptm., appt Staka 9./KG 55 (to 08.05.45).
19.08.44 Hptm., awarded Ritterkreuz, Staka 9./KG 55.
Credited with 365 combat missions during the war.
† 13.07.97 in Friedrichsdorf/Taunus.


SCHMIDT, Werner-Artur.
(DOB: 01.05.20 in Potsdam).
01.04.42 promo to Oblt.
31.08.43 Oblt., awarded DKG, 7./KG 55.
01.06.44 in KG 55, promo to Hptm.



Good luck!

LdZ
DGS

Hi Doug,

http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/index_...chword=SCHMIDT

Gives the date of birth of the RKT as 01May20, Potsdam the same as the DKiG recipient in your above post. I know that you and Larry have compiled your data from the microfilmed personnel files but is it possible the above individuals data has got mixed up or is www.das-ritterkreuz.de wrong. The photo in the above link doesn't show Schmidt with the DKiG but it does show him as a Maj but states his final rank as Hptm so it might be suspect.

Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold der Luftwaffe 1941-1945, by Veit Scherzer and Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, Waffen-SS, und des Deutschen Kreuzes in Silber, Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, Waffen-SS, by Horst Scheibert give Schmidt's first name as Werner, no mention is made of Werner-Artur.

Is it possible that Werner Schmidt received the DKiG for service with 7./KG 55 and was them made St.Kap. 9./KG 55

Best Regards

Andy Fletcher

[Doug Stankey]

Its quite possible that we have the details per guy mixed up. It may take a while to sort this out but in the meantime we have another guy to add to the mix:

SCHMIDT, Werner. (DOB: 01.05.20). 31.08.43 Oblt., awarded DKG, 7./KG 55.

The commentary on this thread is very interesting.



LdZ
DGS

[Andy Fletcher]

Originally Posted by Doug Stankey

Its quite possible that we have the details per guy mixed up. It may take a while to sort this out but in the meantime we have another guy to add to the mix:

SCHMIDT, Werner. (DOB: 01.05.20). 31.08.43 Oblt., awarded DKG, 7./KG 55.

LdZ
DGS

Is this not the same individual as Werner-Artur Schmidt in your previous post, all the dates are the same.