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Soviet Losses in the Winter War
I'm looking for information on Soviet aircraft losses during the 1939-40 Winter War with Finland.
Thanks, Neil |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Hello Neil
I'm not sure what kind of info you are looking for but from Keskinen - Partonen - Stenman Suomen Ilmavoimat Finnish Air Force 1928 - 40 you can see the daily losses, for ex. on 7th March 40 at 1515-1525 Finnish time over Tervajoki 148 IAP lost one Polikarpov I-153 to Gladiators from LLv 14 and that on 23.12.39 among other losses at 1055 - 1110 Finnish time 7 IAP lost 2 Polikarpov I-16s (pilots Lts Grigoryev and Zolotaryov) over Pero - Kämärä area to kers. (Sergeant) P. Tilli from LLv 26. The book is still available for example from Stenman. HTH Juha |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Hi Neil,
I have newly published (five months ago) russian book with these losses. You can pass me your request here or via pm. Regards Robert |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Robert,
Could you give the title, author, publisher and ISBN for the book you referenced on Soviet Winter War losses? I would be interested in picking up a copy. Frank.
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Hi Frank,
Istoria Awiacii - Snecwypusk No.2 BBC Krasnoj Armii w Zimnej Bojnie 1939-1940 Colonel Miroslaw Morozow with support of Aleksander Kirindas, Wladimir Kotelnikow and Aleksandr Bulacha Unfortunately no ISBN but you can order at www.histavia.avia-hobby.ru The losses are listed with serials! Regards Robert |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Thanks Robert for the bibliographical info on Morozov book/magazine, I have had opportunity only for a short look on it and could not remember the full name of it. A good companion to it is Geust - Tirkeltaub - Petrov Red Star 5 Baltic Fleet Air Force in Winter War Itämeren laivaston ilmavoimat Talvisodassa APALI 2004 in which the personal losses should be 100% but which doesn't incl all a/c losses. And it gives only few C/ns.
Juha |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Juha,
Are the books you refer to written in Finnish? Regards, Neil |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Neil
they are both fully or at least almost fully bi-language, Finnish/English text and captions. That's why I mentioned them. It's very rare that foreigners can read Finnish. HTH Juha |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Hello Neil, a clarification.
Keskinen - Partonen - Stenman Suomen Ilmavoimat Finnish Air Force 1928 – 40 see things from Finnish POV as the title shows and the Soviet losses shown are those which are found to match to FAF claims. On the other hand is Geust - Tirkeltaub - Petrov Red Star 5 Baltic Fleet Air Force in Winter War Itämeren laivaston ilmavoimat Talvisodassa see things from VVS-KBF POV and there are appendices from which You can see the VVS-KBF losses easily and of course can find more info from text. HTH Juha |
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Re: Soviet Losses in the Winter War
Quote:
http://histavia.avia-hobby.ru/promo/sp2.pdf
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