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Old 14th April 2010, 13:23
Ruediger Kaufmann Ruediger Kaufmann is offline
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John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Hi all,

has anybody further information about
2.Lt. John A. Wenner from 363 FG 382 FS ?
He flow P-51 Serial No. 43-148 and was shot down at 8th of April 1944.

I fund no MACR 3569.

Many thanks for any information.

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Old 14th April 2010, 20:29
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Re: John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Good evening Rüdiger !

Your P-51 has the USAAF-s/n 43-7148. The pilot was reported KIA this day. The German Luftgaukommando report 17 "Mustang" as lost, while actually 14 P-51 were reported by the USAAF as lost over enemy teritorry. There may be some multiple reports for "Mustang" by the Germans, but each report has it's file # and can be ordered by the National Archives. You may find here a solution for your case.

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Old 14th April 2010, 23:41
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Re: John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Dear Horst,

many thanks for your answer.
I know the only MACR No. 3569 but there are no MACR at footnote!
There is also nothing about John A. Wenner.
The dayly US-fighter report shown his name as KIA but is there somewhere a grave or is he still missing?

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Old 15th April 2010, 09:35
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Re: John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Rudiger,

On website wwiimemorial.com there's an entry for 1st Lt. John (Jhon?) A. Wenner, 0-810609 from Hamilton County, OH.
Cause of death is given as FOD (finding of death) instead of KIA.

I believe this means that his death was only recorded later because the actual cause and/or date could not be established at that time by the Americans.

He's not mentioned on the MIA list (see http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/worldwarii.htm) and so far haven't been able to locate a gravesite (yet).

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Old 15th April 2010, 16:28
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Re: John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Dear Leendert,

many thanks!

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Rüdiger
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Old 15th April 2010, 17:10
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Re: John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Hello ,

according to my records, John A. Wenner crashed near Gardelegen.

Source: Fighter Losses of the Mighty Eighth, William H. Adams, 1995 - Page 46

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Old 15th April 2010, 19:16
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Re: John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Rüdiger !

1st Lt. John A. Wenner, S/N 810609, found his first burial location undr U.S. control on U.S. Military Cemetary Neuville-en-Condroz, Liege, Belgium.

According to his next of kin, he was later reburied to a cemetary in Ohio, USA. (source: Department of the Army, Office of the Quartermaster General, Memorial Division Registration Branch).

The MACR or/and the IDPF of this officer may help a lot in this case.

The location Gardelegen was given in the Group's Operation Report and this document was written some days after the loss. I don't think, that the given location helps in this particular case very much.

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Old 16th April 2010, 13:18
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Re: John A. Wenner, 363 FG, 382 FS, lost 8.4.44

Hello Horst and Uwe,

many thanks.
I will order the IDPF and will wait some months for it.

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