Unknown emblems

[ianatheling]

Two photos of aircraft with unknown emblems have recently appeared on eBay
1] Focke Wulf Fw 58C from eBay http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Foto...item3cbe10ad19 shows a flower emblem...could be an unopened Edelwiess?...but cannot find it in my list of emblems... Could be a training emblem, although full image shows the aircraft surrounded by a number of army troops with rifles and winter coats and horses. This gives the impression that the aircraft was being used in a forward role, rather than training.
2] This Caudron C-445 is on ebay http://www.ebay.de/itm/Originalfoto-...item3cbe109749. It has an emblem which I cannot identify. Its most likely a training unit. Caudron C.445 were mostly with FFS C and LKS units. The aircraft has the stkz BJ+U?. The emblem may be a flower/leaf with some similarity to that of FFS C 8, but appears to be a light colour with something else at the centre.

Neither have been found in the usual emblem sources, any ideas are much appreciated.

Regards

Ian

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Hi,
the first is probably not an Edelweis but maybe a Maiglöckchen.

Regards,

Norbert

[ianatheling]

Hi Norbert

Many thanks for the flower identification! ...This is apparently commonly known in English as Lily of the Valley. Flowers do appear in emblems of several training units and a few other units, but none looking like this one.

regards
Ian