some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941

[martin75]

Hello,

can someone give me infos (exact type, precise unit, crew, ...) on some german planes destroyed during raids on russian naval base of Kronstadt between 21 and 27 september 1941 ?
Ju88 WNr 4330 3/KG77
Ju88 WNr 2153 4/KG77
Ju87 WNr 5735 and 5836 of St G 2
Bf 109 WNr 3639 and 4199 of JG 27

other planes completing this list or any detail concerning these raids are welcome !

Thanks in advance

Greetings

Claude

[S Sheflin]

Claude,

Regarding your Bf 109 WNr. 3639, there may be a problem with either your list or mine. In my database it is listed as being:


E-7, 3639, 22+, NC+DX, 3./JG 106, Fw. Karl-Heinz Zimmermann, WIA/LK US Bombers, 44/01/29, nr. Frankfurt

My source for this information is listed as being this forum on 11/11/01, and a note indicates this may be the last “E” combat loss with the USAAF?

Steve Sheflin

[Nokose]

According to JFV teil 6/ I on the 21Sep41 in the area of Kronstadt 9./JG 27 lost two (100%) in an air battle with I-153.
Bf 109 E-4 (3639) ge. 2 + Lt. Joachim Hinkelmann
Bf 109 E-7 (1499) ge. 10 + Uffz Ewald Hacker

Stab/JG 27 Obfw Erwin Sawalisch shot down two I-153 (possibly the two I-153 from 71 IAP KBF who claimed 2 Bf 109) in the Leningrad area about the same time.

[G.R.Morrison]

Here’s what we have on the Werknummern you listed. GRM

Ju 88A-5 WNr.4330, Oblt. Günther Jochim,(B)/n.n. (F), Stab I./KG 77
23-Sep-1941 WIA due to enemy fighters. Fl.Pl. Dno 20% damaged

Ju 87B-2 WNr.5735, Hptm. Ernst KUPFER, I./St.G. 2
28-Sep-1941 Stkp. Crew injured due to Notlandung, crashed in trees. Bs Fw. Heinrich Barnebeck

Ju 87R-2 WNr.5836, Hptm. Ernst-Siegfried STEEN, 301missions, Stab III./St.G. 2, T6+CD
23-Sep-1941 Gr.Kdr. Crew KIA due to Flak. Pilot awarded a posthumous Ritterkreuz. Bf Uffz. Alfred Scharnowski was Rudel's gunner. Location: PlQu. 90 22

Bf 109E-7 WNr.4199, Uffz. Ewald Hacker, 9./JG 27, “gelbe 10”
21-Sep-1941 WIA due to Luftkampf. Raum Kronstadt

Bf 109E-4 WNr.3639, Ltn. Joachim Hinkelmann, 3 victories, 9./JG 27 “gelbe 2”, Stammkennzeichen: NC+DX
21-Sep-1941 Reported lost due to Luftkampf. F returned. Raum Kronstadt. This machine had earlier served with the 6./JG27, and was later used by a ground attack unit before ending its days with JG106

[martin75]

All my thanks to you Gentlemen !

Greetings

Claude

[KrisJG3]

Originally Posted by G.R.Morrison

Here’s what we have on the Werknummern you listed. GRM
(...)
Ju 87B-2 WNr.5735, Hptm. Ernst KUPFER, I./St.G. 2
28-Sep-1941 Stkp. Crew injured due to Notlandung, crashed in trees. Bs Fw. Heinrich Barnebeck

see photos with Hptm. Ernst KUPFER :

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=Kertsch

[Jim P.]

The missing Ju 88 - note that 'KE+OH' is the SKZ for machine, not the VBZ (3Z+_M?).

Ju 88A-5, 2153, n.n., , II., 4., KG 77, , , KE+OH, , 22-Sep-41, Flak. Bo KIA., , Lfl.1/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.6, Medcalf, bei Kronstadt, 15%, F, Bo Fw. Eugen Schlachter, , Arado Flzg.Werke Brandenburg in Aug-40.