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				Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
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	I`m looking for information and details cocerning the subsequently fate of two Curtiss Hawk fighters: - No.199 GCI/5 presumably lost on the 21.05.40 in accident? - No.31 GCI/5 lost on the 21.05.40 (Sgt.Preux POW?)? Regards Robert  | 
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
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	Don't wish to upset the apple cart but were these a/c 31 = H75A-1; 199 = H75A-2 or were they 31= H75-A-4; 199 = H75A-4 Alex  | 
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
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	Which détails do you wanna know about these two losses ? N°31 : Sgt Edouard Preux had to pick it up for his group (GC I/5) from Chantilly to St Dizier. In flight, he had an engine failure, and was captured in the german lines. n°199 : Lost the 18/05/1940, S/C François Morel, one of the best french pilots. During a cover of Fismes, he was shot down by a Heinkel of KG 55 at about 15h00.  | 
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
			I just forgot : The H-75A4 or H-751 were not used in war missions in may or june 1940. The first time, it was in July 1940 ............. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
			Hello Robert, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	H75A-4, It slipped my memory too. ![]() Sorry to misslead. 31 an A-1 would have been X-830 while 199 an A-2 would have been U-099. Curtis numbers I think were 12828 and 13030. Alex  | 
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
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	Petitpoucet do you have time of this accident? I`m meaning Sgt.Preaux belly-landing on the german territory? Regards Robert  | 
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
			I really don't know. This detail is not in the I/5's archives. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
			Dear Petitpoucet, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Thanks for information. And I hope to see your book soon! Regards Robert  | 
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
			Dear Robert, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	The work is done, but we must wait until the end of the year ! As i remember, Edouard Preux had just an emergency landing, on the wheels, not a belly landing. The time of it is not written in his own book "quand l'avion se pilotait". Regards  | 
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				Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199
			 
			OK, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	copy that. Regards Robert  | 
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