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Old 12th August 2007, 17:41
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Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

Hi,

I`m looking for information and details cocerning the subsequently fate of two Curtiss Hawk fighters:
- No.199 GCI/5 presumably lost on the 21.05.40 in accident?
- No.31 GCI/5 lost on the 21.05.40 (Sgt.Preux POW?)?

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Old 13th August 2007, 03:55
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

Hello Robert,

Don't wish to upset the apple cart but were these a/c
31 = H75A-1; 199 = H75A-2
or were they
31= H75-A-4; 199 = H75A-4

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Old 13th August 2007, 23:17
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

Dear Robert,

Which détails do you wanna know about these two losses ?

N°31 : Sgt Edouard Preux had to pick it up for his group (GC I/5) from Chantilly to St Dizier. In flight, he had an engine failure, and was captured in the german lines.

n°199 : Lost the 18/05/1940, S/C François Morel, one of the best french pilots. During a cover of Fismes, he was shot down by a Heinkel of KG 55 at about 15h00.
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Old 13th August 2007, 23:25
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

I just forgot : The H-75A4 or H-751 were not used in war missions in may or june 1940. The first time, it was in July 1940 .............

Sorry !
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Old 14th August 2007, 14:32
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

Hello Robert,

H75A-4, It slipped my memory too.



Sorry to misslead.

31 an A-1 would have been X-830 while 199 an A-2 would have been U-099. Curtis numbers I think were 12828 and 13030.

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Old 14th August 2007, 19:32
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

Hello,

Petitpoucet do you have time of this accident? I`m meaning Sgt.Preaux belly-landing on the german territory?

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Old 15th August 2007, 10:25
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

I really don't know. This detail is not in the I/5's archives.
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Old 15th August 2007, 11:57
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

Dear Petitpoucet,

Thanks for information. And I hope to see your book soon!

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Old 16th August 2007, 02:01
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

Dear Robert,

The work is done, but we must wait until the end of the year !
As i remember, Edouard Preux had just an emergency landing, on the wheels, not a belly landing.
The time of it is not written in his own book "quand l'avion se pilotait".

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Old 16th August 2007, 18:57
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Re: Curtiss-Hawk No.31 and 199

OK,

copy that.

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