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Old 14th July 2010, 20:59
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Looking for info about a hungarian Bf 109

Gents,
while browsing through some older ebay photos a good friend of mine sent me I discovered the attached pic of a captured Bf 109 of the Royal Hungarian Air Force. If I recall correctly this should be a Györ-built a/c and it's still wearing its factory code, beginning with "W-0" (But I am no expert for hungarian aircraft).
I cannot remember seeing a captured "Messer" with those markings anywhere, so is there anything known about this example?

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Christian

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Old 14th July 2010, 22:22
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Re: Looking for info about a hungarian Bf 109

ChristianK,

I have four Hungarian Bf 109 G-14s with “W-O+numeral” markings in my database file. However, all are from Messerschmitt-Regensburg production:

G-14 782000 W-O+80
G-14 782205 W-O+58 (“58” is light colored)
G-14 782236 W-O+83
G-14 782239 W-O+84
G-14 782240 W-O+85

All but one of these reported by “F19Gladiator” over at the LEMB. I am certain there are many more out there.

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Old 14th July 2010, 22:24
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Re: Looking for info about a hungarian Bf 109

Hi Christian

First of all I would not call the markings for a factory code on this Bf 109G. The W.0+xx is part of a serial number applied by the Hungarian Air Force at the time and without more info all I can say is that it is part of the batch W.0+01 to W.0+99.

These aircraft were delivered to units 101/I and 101/II

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Old 14th July 2010, 23:46
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Re: Looking for info about a hungarian Bf 109

Thank you Steve and Stig for your input, some new info for me there! Maybe something else on this particular plane will come up in the future...

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Old 15th July 2010, 10:17
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Re: Looking for info about a hungarian Bf 109

Christian,

These are not factory codes or serial numbers at all. The markings with V.8.. row were abandoned over V.87. and the W-001 row had started after. These were Győr and WNF built aircraft and all three groups received W- marked aircraft. The really interesting in this picture is, that such row was abandoned again (well over W-200) and the remained examples were re-painted (with large colour numbers). Very few aircraft at the end of the war bore such former markins.
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Old 15th July 2010, 23:00
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Re: Looking for info about a hungarian Bf 109

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I would not call the markings for a factory code on this Bf 109G. The W.0+xx is part of a serial number applied by the Hungarian Air Force at the time and without more info all I can say is that it is part of the batch W.0+01 to W.0+99.
That's correct. The range ran from W.0+01 to at least W.2+25. These all were MTT, FAG and WNF-built '109Gs.

It would be interesting to know where and when this particular photo was taken by an American GI.
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Old 15th July 2010, 23:07
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Re: Looking for info about a hungarian Bf 109

I am sorry, but I don't have any additional info about this photo...
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