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Old 19th November 2005, 16:25
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Last Wednesday this photo of a part of a recovered aircraft appeared in our newspaper.
It shows a plate with following letters and numbers
Sach Nr 109.136-081
Werk Nr G 815
Hersteller ?au. ? is illegibly.
The crashsite is near Tilburg (Neth). According eyewitnesses the a/c crashed in flames in 1943. Pilot baled out to safety.
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Old 19th November 2005, 17:32
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Looks like this is a part of the aircraft, and I would guess that Heinkel made the part (manufacturer code fau)

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Old 19th November 2005, 18:30
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Fellows,

the Ersatzteilliste (replacement-parts-list) Bf109 G dated January 1944 lists the Ersatzteilnummer 109.136.081 for the "Waffenabdeckung oben vollständig", which is the complete cover of the MG 131 guns in front of the cockpit. If the a/c crashed in 1943 it's a G-5 or G-6.

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Old 19th November 2005, 18:45
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Re: Recovered Me

Hi everyone,

Carl is right regardind the exact part marked with the Ersatzteilnummer 109.136.081. I'd like just to add that the Bf109 was certainly a G-5.
If you look at the Ersatztelliste for the K-4 model, on page 6 you'll find a Baureihen-Übersicht indicating that Baugruppe 109.136 belonged to a G-5 fuselage (109F107). A G-6 fuselage (109F108) was Baugruppe 109.143.

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Old 20th November 2005, 04:53
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Re: Recovered Me

A minor point perhaps, but I suggest that the fabricator code may be: jau.

If so, it's a part made by Neue Kuhler- u.Flugzeugteile-Fabriken

Such a simple part is within the capability of a small firm, being a more appropriate source (in this case serving Messerschmitt) than a major aircraft producer (i.e., Heinkel) concerned with its own products and associated part sourcing.

I will inspect 109 plates in my collection to determne if either jau or fau appear.
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Old 21st November 2005, 03:52
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The 109 plates inspection revealed two examples marked with jau, none with hau.

109.658 001H.001
G 744
jau

109.658 001H.002
28410/19
jau

Both plates were discovered at RAF Kenley in the 1980s, having orginally been removed for intelligence purposes (from downed or capured aircraft) during the war.
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