Ju87 data plate

[stephen f. polyak]

Found among a GI’s bring-back items is a small aluminum data plate marked…

JUNKERS
Gerät-Nr “8-87 D-3 (Tp)”
Werk-Nr “10 0302”
“hls”

Entries in quotes are engraved into the plate. JUNKERS, Gerät-Nr, and Werk-Nr are etched as per a manufactured data plate.

Thoughts, please, as to the history/fate of this airplane?

Thank you,
Steve

[Tony Kambic]

The NASM Bf109 was manufactured as a TROP aircraft. While the original data plate is missing, the DB605 engine data plate has a TP following the Gerat Nr DB605 A1.

In the one small book I have of Ju-87s, it states that the D-3 was the first version to not have the 'siren' incorporated due to a weight increase by added armor. In the book is a color plate of a D-3/Trop, S7+AA, of Geschwaderstab StG 3, based at Haggag-el-Quasaba, Egypt, late 1942.

Book is Junkers Ju87 STUKA by Martin Derry and Neil Robinson.

Tony

[Revi16]

I believe the data plate is for an assembly or device (Geräte) for the airframe (8-). The werk-nr is for that specific part/assembly.

[stephen f. polyak]

The style of the plate is that of a main data plate for an airplane, not a component plate. The WNr is in the Ju87 D-3 production block. I can now add that the plate was taken in the Mediterranean area of operations, North Africa or Italy.

Originally Posted by Revi16

I believe the data plate is for an assembly or device (Geräte) for the airframe (8-). The werk-nu is for that specific part/assembly.

[stephen f. polyak]

Thank you, Tony.

Originally Posted by Tony Kambic

The NASM Bf109 was manufactured as a TROP aircraft. While the original data plate is missing, the DB605 engine data plate has a TP following the Gerat Nr DB605 A1.

In the one small book I have of Ju-87s, it states that the D-3 was the first version to not have the 'siren' incorporated due to a weight increase by added armor. In the book is a color plate of a D-3/Trop, S7+AA, of Geschwaderstab StG 3, based at Haggag-el-Quasaba, Egypt, late 1942.

Book is Junkers Ju87 STUKA by Martin Derry and Neil Robinson.

Tony

[JoMe]

Does anybody knows, what abbreviation "hls" stands for (WFG-Lemwerder?)

best wishes
JoMe

[stephen f. polyak]

hls = Weser Flugzeugbau G.m.b.H., Bremen 1

Originally Posted by JoMe

Does anybody knows, what abbreviation "hls" stands for (WFG-Lemwerder?)

best wishes
JoMe

[Stig Jarlevik]

Hi Stephen

While the Ju 87 A, B, C and R are quite reasonably covered, the Ju 87 D is not (at least not in
my lists)

For WNr 100302 I only have a STKZ KK+CB, that is it.

Cheers
Stig

[stephen f. polyak]

Stig, thank you so much for that info. Very helpful! The skz “KK+CB” led me to search further. Thus, LRG (https://www.luftwaffe-research-group.com) revealed a vkz of M6+CL, which I don’t believe connects with a StG unit. Possible error? Also, the city of Bizerte is listed in connection with this airplane. Further thoughts?

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Hi Stephen

While the Ju 87 A, B, C and R are quite reasonably covered, the Ju 87 D is not (at least not in
my lists)

For WNr 100302 I only have a STKZ KK+CB, that is it.

Cheers
Stig

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by stephen f. polyak

Stig, thank you so much for that info. Very helpful! The skz “KK+CB” led me to search further. Thus, LRG (https://www.luftwaffe-research-group.com) revealed a vkz of M6+CL, which I don’t believe connects with a StG unit. Possible error? Also, the city of Bizerte is listed in connection with this airplane. Further thoughts?

Not sure Stephen from where you or LRG get that info.
M6 was used by a ocean rescue unit (Seenotstaffel 3) equipped mostly with Heinkel 59 and later
Dornier 24T but also a few former French Breguet 521 'Bizerte'.
The M6 code was not assigned until quite late, 1944 or so.

A Ju 87 would be more or less useless for them.

Cheers
Stig