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Old 19th February 2014, 17:50
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Loss of stiring ef271/199 sqn 15-16 feb 44

Just found out that this crash at Grun-Bordas near Vergt is not far from my house in France. Can anyone give me more details as to its loss (especially our Australian contributors as a number of the crew came from 'down under').P
PS. No idea why the title deaulted to lower case and yes, it should be Stirling not Stiring!
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Re: Loss of stiring ef271/199 sqn 15-16 feb 44

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Re: Loss of stiring ef271/199 sqn 15-16 feb 44

Hi ,
EF271 was on a SOE mission.
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Re: Loss of stiring ef271/199 sqn 15-16 feb 44

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Re: Loss of stiring ef271/199 sqn 15-16 feb 44

Hello Chris,
I am sure you already know or have this information, but:
Military Branch: Royal Air Force (United Kingdom) Manufacturer: Short Model: Stirling Type: Mk.III Serial Number: EF271 Identifier: EX-F Nickname: Command: Bomber Command Squadron: No. 199 Squadron RAF Comment: Airborne 23:05 on 15 Feb 1944 from Lakenheath to c... Show moreAirborne 23:05 on 15 Feb 1944 from Lakenheath to carry out a mission of cooperation with Free French forces of the Interior. Cause of loss not established. Crashed 03:00 (local) at Vergt in the Dordogne, 22 km S of Periguex. All are now buried in Mazargues Cemetery extension, 6 km SE from the centre of Marseille.

P/O K.A.Robinson 416614 RAAF (Pilot) killed
Sgt R.A.Williams 649053 RAF (Flt Engr) killed
Sgt R.Stubbings 1577911 RAFVR (Navigator) killed
Sgt G.Caine 1525642 RAFVR (Bomb Aimer) killed
F/S H.E.Lambourne 421428 RAAF (WOp AG) killed
P/O J.A.Jackson 127619 RAFVR (Mid Up AG) killed
Sgt A.Whimpenney 2216127 RAFVR (Rear AG) killed

http://www.sudouest.fr/2013/02/21/en-souvenir-des-sept-aviateurs-anglais-973248-2222.php

Serial range EF231 - EF277. 47 Stirling Mk.III. Part of a batch of 260 Short S.29 Stirling Mk.III/1V. EE871-EE918, EE937-EE975, EF114-EF163, EF177-EF217, EF231-EF277, EF289-EF316 Mk.III, EF317-EF323 Mk.IV, EE889, EE900, EE960, EE962, EE966, EF141, EF213, EF214, EF234, EF237, EF241-EF244, Ef248, EF256, EF260, EF261, EF263-EF265, EF267-EF270, EF272-EF277, EF292, EF293, EF295-EF298, EF303, EF305, EF306, EF309, EF311, EF314, EF316 converted to Mk.IV. Delivered by short & Harland between Oct 1943 and Dec 1943. Contract No.774677/38. Delivered to No.23MU 14 Oct 1943, to No.214 Sqdn 30 Nov 1943, to No.623 Sqdn 23 Dec 1943, to No.199 Sqdn 30 Jan 1944.

Storr, Allan (ed.). (2006). http://www.awm.gov.au/catalogue/research_centre/pdf/rc09125z006_1.pdf, page 299.

Chorley, W R. (1997). RAF Bomber Command Losses of the Second World War, Vol 5 – 1944. Midland Publishing. ISBN: 0904597911.

http://francecrashes39-45.net/page_fiche_av.php?id=969

Tebbutt, Roy. (2013). Aircraft lost on Allied Force’s Special Duty Operations & Associated Roll of Honour (version 21.8.2013). Carpetbagger Aviation Museum. Available online at http://harringtonmuseum.org.uk/Aircraft%20lost%20on%20Allied%20Forces%20Special%2 0Duty%20Operations.pdf.
Show less Start Airport: Lakenheath Mission: Special Operations Executive Destination: Southern France Date: 1944-02-15 Losstime: Loss Location: Vergt (Dordogne) Cause: unknown Shot by: Damage: 100% Luftwaffe Casualty-No.: Source: Former / Ehemaliger Website lostbombers.co.uk www.... Show moreFormer / Ehemaliger Website lostbombers.co.uk
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IDRankNamePositionDestinyDate of birthPersonal IDBurial Place1Flight SergeantKevin Alphonsus Robinson RAAFPilotkilled0000-00-00416614MAZARGUES WAR CEMETERY, MARSEILLES, Plot 3. Row D. Coll. grave 5-6.2SergeantReginald Alfred WilliamsFlight Engineerkilled0000-00-00649053MAZARGUES WAR CEMETERY, MARSEILLES, Plot 3. Row D. Coll. grave 5-6.3SergeantRonald StubbingsNavigatorkilled0000-00-001577911MAZARGUES WAR CEMETERY, MARSEILLES, Plot 3. Row D. Coll. grave 5-6.4SergeantGerrard CaineBomb Aimerkilled0000-00-001525642MAZARGUES WAR CEMETERY, MARSEILLES, Plot 3. Row D. Coll. grave 5-6.5Flight SergeantHenry Edward Lambourne RAAFWOp AGkilled0000-00-00421428MAZARGUES WAR CEMETERY, MARSEILLES, Plot 3. Row D. Coll. grave 5-6.6Pilot OfficerJames Alexander JacksonMid Upper Gunnerkilled0000-00-00127619MAZARGUES WAR CEMETERY, MARSEILLES, Plot 3. Row D. Coll. grave 5-6.7SergeantArnold WhimpenneyRear Gunnerkilled0000-00-002216127MAZARGUES WAR CEMETERY, MARSEILLES, Plot 3. Row D. Coll. grave 5-6.
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Re: Loss of stiring ef271/199 sqn 15-16 feb 44

Thanks Alain & Adriano but I have this already
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Re: Loss of stiring ef271/199 sqn 15-16 feb 44

Hi Chris,

Have a look at the A705 Casualty files at the NAA Canberra.

Lambourne, 421428 has the results of an inquiry by the Red Cross giving more details and what was found at the crash site.

The links time out so you need to do the following steps:

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/

Click on record search

Put the following into the keyword box

Lambourne 421428

Hit search and then click on the sheaf of papers icon on the righthand side.

As with all casualty reports start at the last page and read forward.

After that try a basic search on EF271 it will bring up the other document references.

If they have not been digitised yet you can have this done for a small fee and the images will be placed ready for web viewing.

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