Which Volume do I need to find two fighters?

[Big John]

Hi All

I believe that most of you will know about these books but in my venture to find out about two German Fighter planes that were shot down by the British, in a dog fights in the sky’s over where my Dad had been evacuated to West Sussex, I have found a set of book called “Luftwaffe Crash Archive” Volume 1-6, I have read that they are supposed to have records of every Luftwaffe plane shot down.

Can any one tell me the Volume that has the records of the two German Planes that were shot down over West Sussex, Horsted Keynes/Haywards Heath?

We know that one of the pilots who were shot down was flying a Messerschmitt 109 and crashed landed and was killed on the 30/09/1940.

He was buried in the local church yard; some time in the 1960’s the body of the German airman was exhumed and taken to the Cannock Chase German Military Cemetery at Staffordshire, U.K.


Information we know about the pilot;

Name; Alfred Sander

Rank; Sergeant

Born; 19.07.1917

Death; 30.09.1940

Troop Unit; Fighter Wing 27 / 3 . Relay (JG27/3)

Service Number; 60327/15

Shot down 09.45 am

Place of Birth; Possneck

We believe that the second plane shot down was a also a Messerschmitt 109, but have no other details. We believe it was shot down on the same day.

Many thanks in advance

Kindest Regards

John Sleeman

[Clint Mitchell]

Volume 5 covers 28th September to 27th October 1940. I can confirm that it has the loss details of Alfred Sander on page 524, although not a lot of info considering the severity of the crash.

[Big John]

Originally Posted by Clint Mitchell

Volume 5 covers 28th September to 27th October 1940. I can confirm that it has the loss details of Alfred Sander on page 524, although not a lot of info considering the severity of the crash.

Thank you Clint that is a great help, are there any photos?

Regards

John

[Clint Mitchell]

Sorry, no it does not.

[Chris Goss]

...and if there is no photo, photos do not exist if this crash unless someone has one hidden in the attic!

[GrafWolf]

Hello John!

I´ve found these informations:

Source:Jagdgeschwader 27
Die Dokumentation über den Einsatz an allen Fronten
1939-1945 by Werner Girbig/Hans Ring
Motorbuch Verlag ISBN 3-87943-215-3

Losses over England on 30.09.1940:

I.Gruppe

Unteroffizier RICHARD Sander 3.Staffel missing
Oberleutnant Hans Bertram 2.Staffel missing

II.Gruppe

Unteroffizier Robert Hammer 4.Staffel POW
Leutnant Herbert Schmidt 6.Staffel POW

III.Gruppe

Oberleutnant Karl Fischer 7.Staffel POW

Herzliche Grüsse aus Altshausen,

Wolfgang

[Melvin Brownless]

Hi, I presume this is the second aircraft you are interested in? Nigel Parker has given me permission to use his research material in case anyone asks.

30/9/40 09.45 hrs.
Me 109 E-4 3763 S I/JG 27
Nettlefold Field, Bell Lane, Nutley, nr Haywards Heath, Sussex. Q.8746.
Following fighter action, aircraft dived into the ground at speed and was entirely destroyed.
Markings: not decipherable. Airframe built by B.F.W.Regensburg.
Armament: two 20 mm cannon and two MG 17.
Pilot: Lt Hans Bertram 60325/2 +. CC 1/18.

Kind regards,

Melvin

www.aircrewremembrancesociety.co.uk

[Big John]

[quote=Melvin Brownless;194823]Hi, I presume this is the second aircraft you are interested in? Nigel Parker has given me permission to use his research material in case anyone asks.

30/9/40 09.45 hrs.
Me 109 E-4 3763 S I/JG 27
Nettlefold Field, Bell Lane, Nutley, nr Haywards Heath, Sussex. Q.8746.
Following fighter action, aircraft dived into the ground at speed and was entirely destroyed.
Markings: not decipherable. Airframe built by B.F.W.Regensburg.
Armament: two 20 mm cannon and two MG 17.
Pilot: Lt Hans Bertram 60325/2 +. CC 1/18.

Kind regards,

Melvin

Melvin

Thank you so much for that information, that is great, I felt that I was not realy getting any were but this information is great.

Thank you so much.

Kindest Regards

John