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Old 11th November 2006, 15:11
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Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

I'm looking for the pilots Uffz. Schuller and Ofw. Uhlig which were both flying a Messerschmitt Me110 of II./ZG1 (Destroyerwing 1 or Zerstörergeschwader 1) on May 24th, 1944 and both claimed to shoot down a P38 over Lower Austria.
We have found the crashplace of probably one of those P38 and excavated some parts of that plane. Now, we are trying to get information about the Messerschmitts and P38s and it's pilots. About the P38 I will state in the subforum about Allies.
Most of interest is where the destroyer were based that day. Maybe someone has a picture of the planes or it's pilot or knows a source where I could get such. I'm thankful for any information regarding this case.

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Old 13th November 2006, 21:44
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

Hi!

It seems, that Uffz. Schüller has only 1 claim.
24.05.44 Uffz. Schüller 6./ZG 1 P-38  EM 3 at 5.000 m. [Rohr i. Gebirge] 11.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69

Lothar Uhlig was an "Ace" with 8 victoryes:

11.07.43 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Spitfire  S.E. Fl.Pl. Gela: 4.000 m. 16.55 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
22.02.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 B-24  S.E. Pilsen: 7.000 m. [Bohemia] 12.50 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.23
13.04.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/JS-9: 5.300 m. [Sarborgard] 13.09 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.32
24.04.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost N/ UL: at 300 m. 09.58 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 29
11.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost/NT-4.6: at 2.000 m. 12.08 Film C. 2032/I VNE: ASM
12.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost N/SG-8: no height 07.26 Film C. 2032/I VNE: ASM
24.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 6./ZG 1 P-38  Bad Voslau: 6.000 m. 11.42 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.6
29.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 6./ZG 1 B-24  DM 8: 6.500 m. [S.E. St. Pölten] 11.06 Film C. 2027/II VNE: ASM
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Old 13th November 2006, 22:48
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

Dear Eugen, wouldn't it be nice to give the source when quoting?

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Old 13th November 2006, 22:53
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

Eugen :

you second pic shows a G-2 from ZG 76
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Old 14th November 2006, 00:17
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

further notes :

top pic is a ZG 26 machine along with your two links, ZG 26 Bf 110G-2's, note the similiar styles of spinner markings and thin white fuselage band with the first photo . . .

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Old 21st November 2006, 13:54
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

Hello,
Thanks for your response! What does "11.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69" mean? Does there a movie from the gun-camera exists? From where you got that information?

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Old 21st November 2006, 14:14
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

11.40 is the time of the claimed victory

"Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69" means that this victory is the 69th listed in the microfilm C. 2027/II in the German archives.
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

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"Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69" means that this victory is the 69th listed in the microfilm C. 2027/II in the German archives.
basically, it would be Staffel's 69th victory

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Old 21st November 2006, 22:46
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

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From where you got that information?
http://www.lesbutler.ip3.co.uk/tony/tonywood.htm
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Old 13th November 2006, 22:46
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Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1

About photoes of Bf110G-2, II./ZG 1 "Wespe"

Sourse of photoes:

Bf110G-2 with crew, 4./ZG 1


Bf110G-2, 5./ZG 1


6./ZG 1 in flight


III./ZG 76 ?
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/Me110-G2-46.jpg
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW4/Me110-G2-60.jpg
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