Ju 88 WNR 853 +(H)A

[Kari Lumppio]

Hello!

Do any of our resident Junkers & Werke Nummer experts have anything about Ju 88 WNr 853? Code was +(H)A, first two digits unknown, third is probable and the "A" is certain. I do not know if it is Stammkennzeichen or Verbandskennung. IIRC the two last digits were both in black.

I am looking for possible damage report for early July 1941. I will elaborate more on this forum if the plane (and as a result perhaps the incident) is successfully identified. My Private Message box is full and will remain so until further notice.

Thanking in advance,

Kari

[RT]

The best guess could hv been a 8253 of 3.KG76, 853 seems to be a D-2 could hv been used by Auf.gr. OBDL ..seems that these planes could hv wornt no unit codes so all blach last two letters...

no reported losses/damaged Ju88 ending with 853 on end of june beg july 41.

remi

[edNorth]

Hi Kari,

W.nr. 853 is indeed a possibility. Could have been under 10% damage and thus not listed.

853 Ju 88 A-5 [DE+HA] Luftwaffe
Known Einflug at Bernburg 18.04.41, Kürsstauer. 19.04.41 - Stückpr._bnahme 20.04.41 [rep Ju 88 853 in logbook Prüfm. Erich Pommer]
- Ju 88 D-2 Erg.FAGr (Lw.Befh.Mitte)
Non-OPS (H) engine failures and force landed (25%) at Meschenbach near Koburg 25.06.1943

cheers
ed

[RT]

Ed, you are really a step ahead than me

[Kari Lumppio]

Salut!

Thank you Gentlemen.

This seems to be a hard nut to crack without exact date.

The origin of my question is a photo series which shows the Ju 88 with bullet holes. Photos are official Finnish military photos, but there are no hint of the time and location. For my eyes the place looks like Helsinki-Malmi and photo record numbers put them in early July 1941. Caption says that the plane arrived from Königsberg and was damaged by enemy. There is no photo of the whole plane. Pilot was "a german Leutenant".

If I remember correctly the holes looked like caused by small calibre bullets and there was hits on fin, wing and propellers. My guess is that the propeller(s?) had to be changed. Would that necessitate a test flight? There are recorded "local flights" by Ju 88 in July 8th (23 minutes) and two "local flights" in July 11th (no flight time). Test flight would be one good reason for Ju 88 local flights around Helsinki. FinnAF did not have any Ju 88 at that time.

Records of Soviet aviation units might give possible matches but otherwise it seems we are out of luck with this one.


Thanks again,
Kari

[edNorth]

Hi;

Description sounds like only 2% to 5% damage. A belly landing sometimes 20% but wiping off gear and props was perhaps 30% etc. Damage repair done in foreign country - ? - likely lost to history!

But how obout this one? - No W.Nr. given

.... Ju 88 A-5 3./KGr 806 (Luftflotte 1 East) OPS (F) crash landing (30%) at Helsinki 10.07.1941 (107v19.07.41)

cheers
ed

[edNorth]

Hello Kari,

Thanks - but I had already found this website. Seems I was right after all ...

Best regards
ed