unidentified Bf109 (?) Oud-Turnhout/ Belgium

[Herman]

Hello

For our local histrical society I doeall miltary historical reaserch.
I'm told that the enclosed picture is taken in our town, Oud-Turnhout, the norrh of Belgium in the province of Antwerp.
Is this 'said so' true? Can anybody confirm of deny it? Whatever the answer is, an answer is always good for me!

Many thanks

Herman

[ju55dk]

Originally Posted by Herman

Hello

For our local histrical society I doeall miltary historical reaserch.
I'm told that the enclosed picture is taken in our town, Oud-Turnhout, the norrh of Belgium in the province of Antwerp.
Is this 'said so' true? Can anybody confirm of deny it? Whatever the answer is, an answer is always good for me!

Many thanks

Herman

It is a Heinkel He 111 from 9/III/KG 27! I do not know if it's from Belgium.

Junker

[Herman]

Many thanks for your reaction. It 's a picture from our local archive. Strange if it would be not Belgian-nic, to appear in the archives. But that's says nothing, I learned.
best regards
Herman

[touvdal]

He 111P, 1G+HT, chrash landen at Kemieten Switserland, 16/5/40, at navi. problem, shot down by Swiss Bf-109, aircraft burt out after 160 mg hits, lt. j. Riecker, Uffz. H. Schaller, A. Herzig, Fw. G. Hobbie internet.
ref. Boelkcke-Archive II, p.138

cheers
Jes

[RolandF]

The plane´s 1G + KT, not 1G + HT.

I have a photo of + HT and the situation is quite different...

Regards

Fran

[Herman]

Thanks to all.
I do think that it is more likely 1G + KT too. Seraching for clue' I was thinking, (taking inaccount the actionradius of the He 111) that it might been a plaine stationned in France in 1944 at Connantre airfiels East of Paris and only 250 Km away from Oud-Turnhout. It's just an idea
I must say I'm tickled by your phot and the quote that the situation is quite different. could you give more details on that? does it means you can link it with place, date and crew? And does anyone has the "werknummer" of the plaine?
best regards
Herman

[Larry Hickey]

Herman,

The position of the swastica on the tail and style of markings almost certainly confirms that this was an aircraft down during 1940, most likely during the May-June Blitzkrieg, not sometime later.

Regards,

[Jim P.]

Pohlmann, Fw. Karl-Ernst, , 9., KG 27, , 1G+KT, , , 10-May-40, , Luftkampf with Hurricanes from 3, 85 and 607 Sq. Bf WIA., 1 KIA, 3 MIA per loss., B Fw. Johannes Annen & Bf Uffz. Nikolaus Jug, Lfl.2/Westfeldzug, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; Waiss, Boelcke-Archiv, II, p.122; Cull, et al, Twelve Days in May, p.50, , Raum Lille, 10%, F

The only 1G+KT I have in May 1940 - ceratinly looks like more than 10% to me!!

[Herman]

Many thanks to All
Jim, I mention you're writing the crew of 1G+KT. Do you have the names of the 1G+BT team too?
Perhaps interesting is that our enviromnemt is an 50 Km form Hasselt, so the 15km wich are noted, could indicate that the picture is from an crash site closer to Hasselt than to (Oud-) Turnhout. Even than it gets more strange that it appear in our local archive.
Really a good job done.
Herman

[Pieter H]

Jim,

Regarding this 1G+KT I'm now confused. Most sources state it returned to base damaged (10%) with the Bordfunker Uffz Jug WIA. But in your summary you list 1 KIA, 1 WIA and 3MIA if I interpret it correctly. This would be quite a different fate of this crew. Can you clarify?

And of course it would still be nice to get the crew of the 1G+BT (?) on May 14.

Kind regards,

Pieter