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Old 29th July 2011, 15:34
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order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Hello.

I would like to know if someone has the order of battle of the Fighter units of VVF over kuban for 1942/43 ?

And if it exist something about in internet or in books ?

By advance Thank you.
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Old 5th September 2011, 14:47
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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Bonjour.

I come back with my demand of order of battle of the Fighter units of VVF over kuban for 1943, or the units concerned by this period.

In my research, I bought a fantastic book, vivid, well written, and smart: Dragons on Birds Wings" and I would to thank the 2 authors Vlad Antipov & Igor Ulkin for their incredible work. Bravo!

I begin to find some IAP or IAD involved during these air battles,I hope that our russian fellows will help us, to find more...

By advance Thanks.
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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Hi,

Here is some information:

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/englis...spit/index.htm

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Old 7th September 2011, 11:57
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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

See attachements. It helps if you know some basic Russian. The table which shows the planetypes is valid for 1st of July 1943.
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Old 7th September 2011, 12:50
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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Hello.

For ftrmbr:
Thank you for your help, I had already found this interesting link

For Yogybär:
Thank you for the 2 tables even I don't know Russian language. For the first table, I can understand the types of Russian Planes, for the second I will try my best, it seem's as unit (IAK or IAD for ex...), it's already a good view.

Thank you again
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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

What bomber type was the B-3?
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Old 9th September 2011, 10:35
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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Hello Dénes.

I don't know if your question is for me ? It is already difficult, because the tables are in Russian. However I will try to answer you by deduction.

If it was the same reference that in French Armée de l'Air, B-3 means Bomber with a crew of 3 mens, as DB-3 / Il-4, Pe-2, SB-3 or less known Yak-2.

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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Many,

I am afraid this is not correct. "B-3" was actually a Soviet designation sometimes used for Douglas Boston bomber.

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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Yes, B-3 stands for Boston (A-20).

Many. if you want to break the Air Divisions down further, you can try this link (which actually is very good!):
http://www.allaces.ru/cgi-bin/s2.cgi...truct/main.dat
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Re: order of battle of VVS over Kuban

Hello.

Thank you Ota & Yogybär

Sorry for the mistake, I am not a specialist about the bombers and less again about the Russian bombers. I try my best with my poor knowledge...

very nice link, that I can translate with google even if it is an approx. translation, it is useful.
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