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Old 1st March 2016, 02:09
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11th August 1943, 10 Sqn RAAF Sunderland DP177

Greetings,

I am investigating the fate of my father's uncle, P/O Roydon Adams, who went MIA on the 11th of August, 1943 on an ASW patrol in a Sunderland/DP177 over the Bay of Biscay. The family always maintained they never learned the fate of Roydon, and he was never recovered.

I have seen cut and paste references to a V./KG 40 report as to the downing of a Sunderland on the same day...

11.08.43 Staffelabschuss V./KG 40 Sunderland ?? - - Reference: CG MSS f. 213

Could I please ask:
- it is acceptable to tie these two events together?
- what exactly does "CG MSS f.213" refer to?
- is it possible to find that original reference "CG MSS f.213" online somewhere?
- I assume "Staffelabschuss" is a "pack kill" reference? No individual was confirmed with that victory?

Many thanks
Doug
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Old 1st March 2016, 12:03
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Re: 11th August 1943, 10 Sqn RAAF Sunderland DP177

Hi Doug,

Chris Goss, a member of this forum, is the person you want to talk to. The loss of DP177 is mentioned in his book "Bloody Biscay". The reference you cite contains his initials.

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Old 2nd March 2016, 00:41
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Re: 11th August 1943, 10 Sqn RAAF Sunderland DP177

Thank you very much, I will track down a copy of Chris' book.
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Old 3rd March 2016, 12:30
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Re: 11th August 1943, 10 Sqn RAAF Sunderland DP177

Andy

Thanks for this

Doug

If I can help any further.....

Chris
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Old 3rd March 2016, 23:58
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Re: 11th August 1943, 10 Sqn RAAF Sunderland DP177

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Doug

If I can help any further.....
Thanks Chris - I've ordered your Bloody Biscay book, and look forwards to reading it.

I'm curious as to what CG MSS f.213 is a reference to? Is that another of your books?

My father and (late) grandfather always maintained they never learned the fate of Roydon on DP177. I would be very interested to know how you paired that up. German combat reports?

Many, many thanks.
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Old 5th March 2016, 11:36
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Re: 11th August 1943, 10 Sqn RAAF Sunderland DP177

Thanks Chris. I'll read Bloody Biscay and get back you

I am curious as to precisely what the reference ...

11.08.43 Staffelabschuss V./KG 40 Sunderland ?? - - Reference: CG MSS f. 213


... refers to.
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