B24 shot down 1944

[Xerumbe]

Hi!

July 12th 1944: Ofw Felder from the 2.JG 200 claimed a victory on a B 24 Liberator @ O4 Ost Nord / RL-2 (a zone between Lyon and Vienne, France).

1- other sources describe the combat over Valence (80 km south of Vienne); could anyone tell me more ?
2- i don't have a complete list of the losses of the 15th AF. What is the unit of the aircraft shot down?

Thanx.

[HGabor]

15th AAF B-24 losses in the area:

44.07.12 461 BG B-24H, S/N: 41-29337 Med
44.07.12 461 BG B-24H, S/N: 42-52723 Fr
44.07.12 461 BG B-24G, S/N: 42-78202 Fr
44.07.12 461 BG B-24G, S/N: 42-78291 Fr
44.07.12 464 BG B-24H, S/N: 41-28999? Med
44.07.12 465 BG B-24H, S/N: 42-52478 Fr

Cheers,
Gabor

[Nick Beale]

Have you read this?

http://www.ghostbombers.com/JG200/july_1.html

[FrankieS]

7570 440712 B-24 41-28948 EE-K 389 565 Vann Jr München Basel/Birsfelden CH
6940 440712 B-24 42-52598 Guess Who's Here 446 705 Culp Hutting D
7559 440712 B-24 42-7591 CT-J Fat Stuff II 448 712 Wilson Altenrhein CH
7560 440712 B-24 42-94735 EI-B Bim Bam Bola 448 714 Blanton Fideris CH
7562 440712 B-24 42-110044 448 714 Kuchwara 80933 Feldmoching D
6936 440712 B-24 42-52627 Stolen Moments 453 735 Banias, Bill B POW 8, EVD 2 68190 Ensisheim F
6928 440712 B-24 42-95096 Z5-U Bombs Away 458 753 ?754 Hopkins, Herbert Payerne CH
6930 440712 B-24 42-100365 Battlin Betty" or "Battlin Baby" 458 755 Quirk, Charles W Harveng (?) BE
7034 440712 B-24 42-78291 461 766 Dunn, Fredrick L Nimes RY 13640 La Roque d'Antheron F
6894 440712 B-24 42-52723 461 766 Ray, Chester A Nimes RY 83470 Seillons-Source-d'Argens F
6808 440712 B-24 41-29337 461 766 Nimes RY Porquerolles Island 70 mil S, off Hyères MED
6895 440712 B-24 42-78202 Full Boost 461 766 Fawcett, Richard S KIA 7, POW 3 Nimes RY 83560 St-Martin-des-Pallieres / Brue-Auriac F
6589 440712 B-24 41-28999 464 Barcelona ES
? 440712 B-24 42-52357 Crack Up 464 Nimes Bari / Pananella IT
6891 440712 B-24 42-52478 465 783 Swanzy, Robert P KIA 2, EVD 9 Nimes La Tour d/Aigues, Near Pertuis, Vaucluse Department F
6933 440712 B-24 42-52559 Q2-R Miss Fortune 467 790 Evans Dübendorf CH
6932 440712 B-24 42-52512 467 789 Sullivan Grünberg, Obsteig A
6994 440712 B-24 42-51113 3Q-T 491 855 MacDonald, Gordon München Payerne CH
7563 440712 B-24 44-40130 492 859 Smith, Herschel L KIA 1, POW 10 25016 Ghedi AF IT

[Xerumbe]

Thank you Sirs for your help.
According to your informations the target of the B24s was the marshaling yards of Miramas. This location is far from Valence area. Off Felder claimed his victory @ 04 OST N/RL-2. Perhaps i make a mistake but the coordinates don't show a place near the french mediterranean coast ...
There is no trace of a plane that crashed near Valence that day. Do you think there may be an error in the assessment of combat coordinates by the German pilot?

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Xerumbe

Thank you Sirs for your help.
According to your informations the target of the B24s was the marshaling yards of Miramas. This location is far from Valence area. Off Felder claimed his victory @ 04 OST N/RL-2. Perhaps i make a mistake but the coordinates don't show a place near the french mediterranean coast ...
There is no trace of a plane that crashed near Valence that day. Do you think there may be an error in the assessment of combat coordinates by the German pilot?

You're right. The location RL-2 is a long way from the other claims that day (the ones around Manosque would be the closest) so it is possible that there was an error in the reported co-ordinates.