Fw 190 loss, 20 Feb 1942

[Stig Jarlevik]

Franek

I am interested in the claims made 20 Feb 1942, not in Gleed's claim.
That is a topic drift created later and I can only suggest a new topic, either
about Gleed (or Finucane) as such or Allied false claims in general.

Cheers
Stig

[Franek Grabowski]

I have posted a link to the combat report, and you can find ORB there as well.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski

I have posted a link to the combat report, and you can find ORB there as well.

I know you have
If you re-read my answer you will also see why I cannot reach it.

Cheers
Stig

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

I know you have
If you re-read my answer you will also see why I cannot reach it.

Cheers
Stig

It seems to work OK for everyone else, Stig, so perhaps it's worth another try.

ORB: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/D8415526 (Summary of Events) and https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/D8415527 (Record of Events)

Sortie Report: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/D7492071

All these items are still downloadable free once you create an account (which is also free — just a matter of entering an email address and creating a password if I remember correctly).

[BruceMk11]

Franek, try re-reading the combat report.

Le Havre may well have been the base for 4.(Eins.)/JFS 5, but Lewis recorded the e/a scrambling from Mardyck. The combat therefore began in the vicinity of Dunkirk.

The report goes on to say that Finucane was hit and the pair headed for home, which at that time was RAF Redhill. I imagine they made landfall on the English coast in the vicinity of Folkestone, or possibly further south or north.

Le Havre is irrelevant to whether Lewis shot down a 109 or not. The combat didn't take place anywhere near there.

Sorry Stig, not interested in creating any such thread. But if someone does, I'll add what I can.

Cheers,

Bruce

[Stig Jarlevik]

No worries Bruce

Thanks Nick for being persistent. I have now managed to get accepted by the
NA.

Also thanks to Andy Mitchell who sent me the actual forms, ahead of me being capable of getting accepted.

Also thanks to Andy Marden who gave me moral support and a promise to help me if I get in "trouble" on the site.

Thanks Guys, your help was really, really great

Cheers
Stig

[Andrew Arthy]

Hi,

The Bf 109 of 4.(Eins.)/J.F.S. 5 came down in the sea off Le Havre around midday, and the Germans expended a lot of effort trying to rescue the pilot.

I assume it was downed in combat with No. 41 Squadron, which engaged two "Bf 109 Fs" in the Le Havre area during a shipping reconnaissance mission between 10:28 and 12:00. F/Lt. Fitzgerald fired at one but ran out of ammunition, and no victory claims were submitted.

I'm not sure what No. 602 actually shot down, but I don't think it was the J.F.S. 5 aircraft near Le Havre.

Sources: No. 11 Group Appendices; Y-Service Reports; No. 41 Squadron ORB

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles

[BruceMk11]

Thanks for your input Andrew. Your information certainly alters the picture somewhat!

It does begs the question what a/c were engaged by 602. Not such a straightforward case as I originally thought.

Apologies to Franek.

[David Sumerauer]

Hello,
F/O Lewis gun camera combat footage from Feb 20, 1942 can be accessed at IWM web site : https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ect/1060035139 (starting at 03.45). Not very convincing.

David