19 and 65 Squadron´s losses on 20th June 1944

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Amrit, Alex, Hank and Nokose;
The combats around 16:00hs and 17:00hs are not totally clear to me.
I started my researches about the 20th June 1944 combats with the first claims known to me around 07:10hs.
07:00hs Combats
Apparently Thunderbolts from 78th FG clashed with Bf 109s of I/JG 3 ( and maybe I/JG 5 ) between Roye and Noyon ( Montdidier area to the NNW of Paris ).
LW airmen claimed 4 Thunderbolts and 2 Mustangs. I do have one loss for 78th FG and scattered losses for 352nd FG and 359thFG. MAYBE those machines were from 9th AF - whose losses I can not have access.
09:00hs combats
Between 09:05 and 09:08hs, I/JG 1 Fw 190s claimed 5 Lightnings near ARGENTAN. AGAIN, one can assume they were in combat with 9th AF machines.
16:00hs Combats
III/JG 54 claimed 8 Mustangs for the loss of only one machine of 8 Staffel.
As you pointed out, they probably clashed against 19 Squadron. However, but sides overclaimed, which could be considered "natural" on the circunstances the combat took place...
However, I came over a 65 Squadron claim of a Fw 190 damaged to F/L Basil Gordon Collins ( do not know at which time this combat ocurred ) and a 65 Squadron´s loss: F/Sgt Gordon Ewart Holland ( RAFVR 1473829 ), killed in combat. LATER, researching about F/Sgt Holland, I noticed he is listed as KIA on 29th July 1944! ( I do not know which source is correct then...)
317 Squadron ( Polish ) claimed several Fw 190s around 16:00hs near Arromanches, for the loss of one of their own ( F/Sgt Winski ). There are several Fw 190s of JG 2 lost around Isigny, W of Carentan and two losses near Cherbourg that day...Was 317 Squadron in combat with JG 2?
17:30hs Combats
JG 26 claimed three P-38 Lightnings near Evreux/ Pacy-sur-Eure. Could it have been in combat with 479th FG which lost one Lightning that day? Again, an overclaimed combat?
18:50-19:00hs combats
JG 3 may have been in combat late in this afternoon. Uffz Gunther Engler from 4 Staffel claimed a Mustang near Falaise. However, 4 Staffel lost one of their aces, Uffz Otto Florian near Bernay.

I do have 5 x Bf 109 G-6 losses from JG 2, between Le Mans / over Baron ( near Villers-Bocage ) / Evreux / Neaufles. TO WHOM can we attribute those losses? 9th AF machines?

Finally, I saw that a Bf 109 G-5 from 4(F)/123 was lost on a recon mission probably near Seine Bay. WOULD one of you have the hour of this loss or probable victor?

YOURS
Adriano Baumgartner