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Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
15. Nov. 1944
18.45h KU-3327 C-47 348328 Location: Steinfurt/Neustettin-Germany The plane is not listed in my book with the MACR-Nummers by Day etc. Britisch oder even an Russian? Thanks for help. H. |
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Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
Hello,
Serial number 43-48328, would have appeared on the a/c's tail unit as "348328". So is correct. Possible use by RAF maybe, but KJ804 was 43-48327 and KJ806 was 43-48329 while KJ805 is recorded as a "Wasted Serial" in AB (The British Air Commission & Lend-Lease). Yet KJ805 is recorded in AB (KA100-KZ999) as "Diverted to Russia". So possible applied with RAF markings over painted with Russian markings. I have no idea, but the other numbers quoted in the KU report might be numbers applied by the Russians ? Hope this helps. Alex |
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Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
Hello,
thank you, this help a little bit! Did you know, that the russians ever fitted an original C-47 with that Gunturret like their Li 2? I have an loos of an C-47 - Li 2 near Aachen in late 1944 (with German Markings) but no idea if US or ex-VVS. Bests, Hans |
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Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
Hans,
Neustettin is present day Szczecinek in Poland? On the other hand, the only Steinfurt I could find is NW of Münster, Germany, unless there is a Polish town with an equally Polish name for Steinfurt now too. Regards, Leendert |
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Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
There was in 1944 a placed called Steinforth or Steinfurth near Neustettin, renamed Brodźce in Polish and that is no more existing according to wikipedia.
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Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
I noticed that a C-47B, 312th Ferry Squadron, S/n 43-48478 was reported missing on November 13,1944. Its mission was from Watten,UK to Airstrip A-62 in France.
I think it's just possible that the serial number listed on the KU report is incorrect. The crew was listed as KIA on the MACR report. |
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Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
The Air-Britain DC-3 book says 43-48328 was delivered 11 Aug 44 and allocated KJ805 but not taken up by the RAF. Reverted to USAAF then transferred to Russia 22 Aug 44.
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Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
Hello,
Thanks for the confirmation and date "to Russia". Tony Woods file gives date of a DC-3 as 16th Nov 44, Fw. Pilz.Place- Stadtrand Szegedin. Interestingly on the 20th Nov one is listed as an Li-2, so perhaps the difference was known. Alex |
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