Abschussmeldung - Film

[Larry deZeng]

.......can anyone help me to find the "Abschussmeldung" for the P-51 #43-6451 through Uffz. Franz Neujahr at 16th March 1944.

Do you mean the single line entry that give the type, altitude, date and time, location, unit and name of pilot making the claim? If not, then what form would you expect the Meldung to be in? Perhaps a detailed, full-page report of the claim that describes the encounter with the names and statements of witnesses?

[Henry Jones]

Hi Larry,

I only see once a "Abschussmeldung", a sheet of paper with the date, aircraft typ, crash site, witnesses ... signed by the pilot who claimed the shot. There were also a "Gefechtsbericht" (fighting report) and a "Luftzeugenbericht" (air witness report) about the combat and the claim. So i thought there is a similar Meldung for the shot down of Dempseys P51 through Neujahr.

Could you help me here? I'm very sorry if my request sounds like a bit unfamiliar. Luftwaffe and Air Force are not my specialized topic.
I don't know which typs of reports are available for Luftwaffe claims, so I'm interested in all documents about this fight.

Thank you
Alex

[Larry deZeng]

Originally Posted by Henry Jones

Hi Larry,
I only see once a "Abschussmeldung", a sheet of paper with the date, aircraft typ, crash site, witnesses ... signed by the pilot who claimed the shot. There were also a "Gefechtsbericht" (fighting report) and a "Luftzeugenbericht" (air witness report) about the combat and the claim. So i thought there is a similar Meldung for the shot down of Dempseys P51 through Neujahr.
Could you help me here? I'm very sorry if my request sounds like a bit unfamiliar. Luftwaffe and Air Force are not my specialized topic.
I don't know which typs of reports are available for Luftwaffe claims, so I'm interested in all documents about this fight.
Thank you
Alex

Alex - It sounded to me like you wanted the German report(s). You certain know exactly what they are, as you demonstrate above. The "Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.237" is the single line entry that comes from daily log sheets maintained by one of the branches within the Luftwaffenpersonalamt in Berlin. Very, very few of the full-page, detailed Abschußmeldungen that I mentioned survived the war. Every one would like to get their hands on these, but only a few of them have been found.

Dragondog's information is from the American side but that is all that you will probably be able to find that provides any detail.

L.

[Henry Jones]

Larry, thank you for the further information. I thought that this reports are preserved in a archive, so it is very annoying to hear that this reports were destroyed through war impact.

But now I knew what kind of information are available. So I think this thread can be closed.

Thank you for your help,
Alex