Shot down over France - June 8th 1944

[Beauch]

Hello from Canada,
I'd appreciate replies from anyone that has any information/reference material as to the likely German Unit/pilot (?) that might've been responsible for shooting down my fathers aircraft.
On June 7th 1944 he was an Air Gunner on a Halifax bomber with 432 SQN (RCAF) when they went on an operation to Acheres France. In the early morning of June 8th they were shot down near Bauvais France.
I understand that there was quite a sizable Luftwaffe base in the area. Apparently there was a twin-engine fighter seen on their tail just before they were shot down.
I'd like to find out more about the events of that night.
Thank you

[brewerjerry]

Hi
From the excellent tony wood files on the les butler site.

You just have to work your way thro' the list eliminating those not relevant.

cheers
Jerry



Night: 7-8. June 1944

R.A.F. Bomber Command: RAIL COMMUNICATIONS
30 Lost

JaFü II. Jagdkorps/Lfl. 3:

08.06.44 Oblt. Franz Brinkhaus 6./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg.

�� QD oder RD, S. Dieppe: 2.000 m. 01.04 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.51
08.06.44 Oblt. Jakob Schaus 4./NJG 4 4-mot. Flgz. �� AD-AE-BD-BE: 1.800 m. [S.W. Paris] 01.15 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.9
08.06.44 Hptm. Hubert Rauh Stab II./NJG 4 4-mot. Flgz. �� BD at 1.300 m. [Rambouillet] 01.16 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.1
08.06.44 Oblt. Jakob Schaus 4./NJG 4 4-mot. Flgz. �� AD-AE-BD-BE: 1.800 m. [S.W. Paris] 01.16 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.10
08.06.44 Oblt. Franz Brinkhaus 6./NJG 2 4-mot. Flgz. �� SD nördl. Beauvais: 1.800 m. 01.19 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.52
08.06.44 Hptm. Kurt Fladrich 9./NJG 4 Halifax �� UD-8.9 at 1.500 m. [Meulan-les-Mureaux] 01.26 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.25
08.06.44 Oblt. Franz Brinkhaus 6./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� TD westl. Beauvais: 1.500 m. 01.25 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.53
08.06.44 Oblt. Franz Brinkhaus 6./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� RD oder QD: 2.000 m. [S. Abbeville] 01.44 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.54
08.06.44 Ltn. Martin Tschiersch 6./NJG 2 4-mot. Flgz. �� AD-BD at 900 m. [W. Paris] 01.45 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.56
08.06.44 Ofw. Busch 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� N.W. Paris at 1.800 m. 02.01 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.14
08.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� UD at 1.800 m. [Magny-en-Vexin] 02.00 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.13
08.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. �� UD-AD: 1.600 m. [Mantes area] 02.03 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.14
08.06.44 Ltn. Martin Tschiersch 6./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� UD-UE at 1.200 m. [N.E. Paris] 02.03 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.56
08.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. �� AD at 1.600 m. [Mantes] 02.06 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.15
08.06.44 Ofw. Exner 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� N.W. Paris at 1.800 m. 02.06 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.15
08.06.44 Oblt. Alfons Köster Stab III./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� TU-1.5 West-Süd: 2.500 m. 02.07 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.11
08.06.44 Ltn. Martin Tschiersch 6./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� UD-AD: no height [N.E. Paris] 02.08 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.57
08.06.44 Ofw. Exner 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� N.W. Paris at 1.800 m. 02.08 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.16
08.06.44 Uffz. Hanke 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. �� 15-25 km. N.W. Paris: 1.600 m. 02.09 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.16
08.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� 20-40 km. S.W. Paris: 1.300 m. 02.11 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.17
08.06.44 Uffz. Stockbauer 4./NJG 4 4-mot. Flgz. �� BE at 1.000 m. [Trappes] 02.15 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.11
08.06.44 Uffz. Kleebauer 8./NJG 4 4-mot. Flgz. �� Westrand Paris: 1.500 m. 02.20 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.6
08.06.44 Uffz. Hengsbach 2./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� BE-1 at 2.500 m. [Trappes] 02.21 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.12
08.06.44 Hptm. Fritz Söthe 4./NJG 4 4-mot. Flgz. �� BE-1 at 1.700 m. [Trappes] 02.21 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.12
08.06.44 Major Walter Borchers Stab/NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. �� 30 km. westl. Paris: 1.300 m. 02.21 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.15
08.06.44 Fhj.Ofw. Herbert Altner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� westl. Paris at 1.600 m. 02.22 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.18
08.06.44 Ltn. Hromaduik 9./NJG 4 4-mot. Flzg. �� UD-9-AE-5: 1.600 m. [Mantes 130° Paris] 02.24 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.29
08.06.44 Major Walter Borchers Stab/NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� 35 km. W. Paris: 1.300 m. 02.29 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.16
08.06.44 Major Walter Borchers Stab/NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� 30 km. W.S.W. Paris: 1.300 m. 02.31 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.17
08.06.44 Ofw. Rother 6./NJG 4 4-mot. Flgz. �� AE-7 at 800 m. [ō. Paris] 02.33 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.8
08.06.44 Fhj.Ofw. Herbert Altner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� S.W. Objekt 50-100 km. nr. Paris: 1.700 m. 02.37 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.14
08.06.44 Ltn. Heinz Reuter 7./NJG 2 4-mot. Flgz. �� 60-80 km. S.W. Paris: 1.500 m. 02.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.17
08.06.44 Uffz. Siegel 2./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. �� 30-40 km. E. Dreux: 1.600 m. 02.41 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.16
08.06.44 Hptm. Lorenz 1./NJG 2 4-mot. Flzg. �� 10-20 km. N.W. Beauvais: 800 m. 02.55 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.10
08.06.44 Major Wilhelm Herget Stab I./NJG 4 Lancaster �� 05 Ost S/RA at 2.600 m. [N.W. Fécamp] 03.05 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.15
08.06.44 Major Wilhelm Herget Stab I./NJG 4 Stirling �� 05 Ost S/QA at 2.600 m. [N.W. Fécamp] 03.14 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.16

08.06.44 Ltn. Plass 1./NJG 5 Lancaster �� SB oder SC: 2.500 m. 03.12 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.17



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[zorglub]

Hello ,
I think your father Sgt H.E Beauchesne and his crew , Halifax LW582 422 Sq were claimed by Franz Brinkhaus 6/NJG2 . I've been studying some crashes that night and it seems that Lancaster LL643 , Halifax NA505 , Halifax LW582 and were his victims west Beauvais. It matches with map locations QD , RD , TD and SD.
Do you have your father's account or other documentation ( pictures , log book , escape report... ) which could be of some interest for my own research here ? I'll be very grateful.

Zorglub

[Icare9]

It was 432 Squadron, not 422, as I think Beauch would know his fathers Squadron..

F/O C.R.Hoffman RCAF initially evaded but was captured in Paris on 3rd August. He may have been one of the many aircrew betrayed by Prosper de Zitter, himself a Canadian, and who was executed after the War. Apart from aircrew, obviously many resistance and Escape Line helpers were also rounded up, many dying in awful circumstances.