4th Staffel Aufklarungsgruppe 21

[Larry deZeng]

Originally Posted by Merlin

David,

according to a Flugbuch the unit was based:
from 21.03.40 Borkenberge
from 13.05.40 Wissel
from 14.05.40 Gilze-Rijen
from 26.05.40 Auxi Le Chateau
from 04.04.40 Vaux les Amiens
from 13.06.40 Rocourt
from 16.06.40 Theil
from 19.06.40 Saint Imbert until 13.07.40

Yikes! This is in total conflict with the information I got, especially from the T-312 Koluft AOK 18 records..................talk about the fog of war! But these pesky (H) Staffeln have always proved difficult for movement information without a complete set of Flugbuecher.

I guess it would be necessary to plot out each of those locations to see just how much they are incongruent with the Saarland and the movements of XXIV. Armeekorps. The Staffel must have had a change of orders, but this should have been mentioned in the AOK 18 records.

L.

[Jaap Woortman]

In my research project about German a/c losses in the Netherland during May 1940 I am working on the Hs 126 losses.
At May 10th 4.(H)/21 was operating for XXVI. A.K. part of 18.Armee and flying from Wissel near Kalkar and moved at May 14th in
the afternoon to Gilze-Rijen. See appendix.
It was then flying for XXVI. A.K. and XXXIX. A.K.

Jaap

[Larry deZeng]

Ah ha - the plot thickens. It seems then that XXVI. AK got transposed into XXIV. AK. I've seen transpositional errors in the original German records countless times, but that is not to say that the typo wasn't made by me, even though I always double and triple check everything.

L.

[David P. Williams]

Gentlemen,

Thank you all very much so far!

Merlin: I am back to writing my biography on Martin 'Tino' Becker who operated with this unit before going on to fighter training, and then night fighting.

He was with this unit and flew approximately 27 missions. I do not have his Flugbuch for this period. Are you able to say who the aircrew member was from whose Flugbuch you have obtained these details?

This is a bit of a hole in my research material for Becker and any assistance will help to fill in the gaps.

Thank you all again,

David

[Jaap Woortman]

David,

The flights of Becker I have seen sofar are:
P2+EM, Becker – van Rossum, 13-05-40 11.40 – 14.30
P2+BM, Becker – Uebe, 14-05-40 11.50 – 14.30
P2+MM, Becker – Homberg, 15-05-40 17.20 – 19.10
I will check May 11th and 12th, 1940 most probably in Jan. next year.


Jaap

[David P. Williams]

Jaap,

That's brilliant.

I appreciate your offer to check the others for May.

As I said it really helps to fill in the gaps and assist me in producing as accurate a biography as i possibly can.

Thank you again, all the best,

David

[Larry Hickey]

Dave,

Have photos of two of the ones reported by Jaap in the EoE Photo DB: P2+EM (shot down 20.05.40?) and P2+BM, in the event that you'd like to know this.

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator