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Old 13th March 2008, 10:56
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Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Dear all

I am looking for these following log books or other documents concerning FlÜG1 , or a copy of it four my researches . They are of great help to clarify the production schedule and the delivery process to front units . The period of time required is Nov 1944 - May 1945 .

Ofw Maurer 4(Nord) ./ Fl.Ü.G 1
Ofw Dickel 4(Nord) ./ Fl.Ü.G 1
Uffz Bugalahn 2(Ost)./ Fl.Ü.G 1
Ofw Becker 4(Nord) ./ Fl.Ü.G 1
Ofw Himmelreich 2(Ost)./ Fl.Ü.G 1
Ofw Hopp 2(Ost)./ Fl.Ü.G 1

As well as

Ofw Weinpahl Lft. Reich ?

Any documents will be fully appreciated and helpfull for me

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Old 13th March 2008, 17:30
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Hi Eric,
there was no Luftflotte Reich Gruppe in Fl.Ü.G. 1. Below is the structure as of 23-Sep-43 the source is RL 10/677. Hope this will help a little.

Norbert

Fl.Ü.G. 1 (23. Sep. 1943)
{Kriegsgliederungsmäßige Zugehörigkeit Lg. Kdo. III (mit Ausnahme Südost)}
{Structural war subordination to Lg. Kdo III with the exception of Südost}
{Ersatztruppenteil: Fliegendes Personal Frontfliegersammelgruppe}
{Replacement unit for flying personnel is Frontfliegersammelgruppe}

Stab – Jüterbog

Gruppe Nord
Stab – Wittenberge
1. Staffel – Wittenberge (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)
2. Staffel – Barth (Kampfflugzeuge)
3. Staffel – Anklam (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)
4. Staffel – Gutenfeld (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)
5. Staffel – Dessau (Insterburg) (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)

Gruppe Ost
Stab – Krakau
1. Staffel – Krakau
2. Staffel – Krakau
3. Staffel – Krakau

Gruppe Süd
Stab – Erding
1. Staffel – Erding
2. Staffel – Erding
3. Staffel – Erding
4. Staffel – Frankfurt/Rebstock

Gruppe West
Stab – Villacoublay/Süd
1. Staffel – Antwerpen (Jagdflugzeuge)
2. Staffel – Villacoublay (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)
3. Staffel – Villacoublay (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)
4. Stafflel – Münster/Loddenheide (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)
5. Staffel – Rommily (Kampf- und Jagdflugzeuge)

Gruppe Mitte
Stab – Berlin/Tempelhof
1. Staffel – Berlin/Tempelhof
2. Staffel – Berlin/Tempelhof
3. Staffel – Dresden/Heller
4. Staffel – Dresden/Heller
5. Staffel – Bernburg

Gruppe Südost
{Kriegsgliederungsmäßige Zugehörigkeit Lg. Kdo. XVII. Ersatz Truppenteil Fl. Ers. Batl. XVII}
{Structural war subordination to Lg. Kdo XVII. Replacement troop unit Fl. Ers. Batl. XVII}

Stab – Wien/Aspern
5. Staffel – Wien/Aspern
6. Staffel – Wiener Neustadt
7. Staffel – Prag/Gbell
5. to 7. Staffel up until now part of Gruppe Ost

Ausbildungs und Ergänzungs Gruppe
Stab – Jüterbog
1. Staffel – Jüterbog
2. Staffel – Jüterbog
3. Staffel – Jüterbog
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Old 13th March 2008, 19:58
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Hi!
According this site:
http://www.ww2.dk/air/misc/flug1.htm

Gruppe Nord was formed on 23.9.43 in Elbing with 1. - 4. Staffeln. There is known any other info about presence Fl.Ü.G. 1 Gruppe Nord on this airfield? How long stationed or about their equipment (any transport a/c for gathering a pilots?).
I suspect this Gruppe being responsible for transfering Bf's to Finland.
I found single ferry flight of Bf 109 G-6/Trop W.Nr. 411520 (Erla - Lepizg) Stammkennzeichen RW+VQ:
Anklam-Elbing: Mar 7 1944 10.15 – 11.30hrs,
Elbing-Riga: Mar 14 1944 14.05 – 15.40hrs,
Riga-Malmi: Mar 16 1944 12.15 - 13.30hrs,
Malmi-Kuorevesi: Mar 16 1944 14.40 – 15.25hrs,
In Finland a/c became MT-402 and served in 3/HLeLv34 (from 4th Apr 1944).
This a/c belonged to 411XXX series bulild on autumn(?) 1943 (I guess the built up time on basis some details showing on photo: low tail, loop antenna, cockpit canopy older type but with Gallandpanzer). If it's true I wat to ask: it is a normal situation, that delivery a/c from factory to the combat unit takes few months?
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Old 13th March 2008, 22:30
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Many thanks Dear Friends

These post are interesting for me .

No I mean by Lft Reich than Ofw Weinpahl was belonging maybe to Lft Reich , not to FLÜG 1

Best regards

Eric
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Old 15th March 2008, 14:58
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Eric,

Am I correct in recalling that most of the listed Fl.Ü.G 1 pilot names are from Jim Crow's Großostheim "Kladde?" I don't have my copy handy, but they sure sound familiar.

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Old 15th March 2008, 15:32
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Hello Steve

Your are right , this document is really interesting and worthy for our researches , but to complete the our on the Fw 190D-9 production and deliveries , we need to know whether these log books are still existing .

You can easily imagine how the delivery flights could be interesting .

Eric
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Old 15th March 2008, 16:25
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

I am also very interested in Fl.Ü.G 1 Ost (East) and Südost (South-East), as these units ferried Henschel Hs 129s to the Eastern Front, as well as various airplanes to Central and East European Axis air forces.

I would appreciate any info regarding these topics. I only hope I can reciprocate the information.
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Old 15th March 2008, 19:49
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Hello to you all,

I can only join Dénes with the hopes that someone could provide information on the Ost/Südost Gruppen of FlÜG1. Especially the possible deliveries to Croatia in 1945.

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Old 15th March 2008, 19:57
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Hello

I have weak information concerning this front . Most of the FLUG 1 fllights I know cover deliveries in late 1944 early 1945.

Eric
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Old 16th March 2008, 11:15
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Re: Fl.Ü.G 1 pilots

Hello Eric,

I do not have anything to those pilots you have listed but I do have a few Soldbücher und Wehrpässe to pilots and an airgunner from at least Fl.Ü.G. 1 (Süd) if they will be of interest to your research?

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