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Old 1st November 2014, 02:42
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Re: Me262 found at Deelen

Dear Jaap,

Taking your photos left to right:

1. That's the air scoop.

2. Could be the air scoop, but it seems too low for it and also rather elongated - more the shape of an ID plate.

3, The air scoop is clearly visible and open at the top of where you have circled. However, if you then compare what you and Franck think might be an ID plate below the scoop with the drawing provided by Stephen, those 4 black dots defining the rectangle just don't match up with the drawing. It's as if there are 4 black dots, but nothing else.

There really isn't anything unusual about the ID plate planned for the Me 262. It is likely the same pattern as used for other aircraft.

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Re: Me262 found at Deelen

Dear Richard,

An air scoop?
I don't see any air scoop on any machine at that place.

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Old 1st November 2014, 05:38
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Re: Me262 found at Deelen

Dear Franck,

Trust me, the Me 262 had an air scoop for the cockpit. That said, I've gone through my stack of photos for white 29 and white 34 and those could, indeed, be ID plates.

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Re: Me262 found at Deelen

Richard,

I do trust you! No doubt about that, I just thought the scoop was closer to windscreen triangle, almost against the frame.
There is a good argument in your favour:
Why the hell "they" did put ID plates on 3 or 4 machines only??

It should be good to identify
1/ Type (sub-type) on which we can find them.
2/ Which assembly plant(or plants eventually) did do it as I would be very surprised to find one on Kuno's - for example.
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Thinking about that, I have the same subsidiary question - but not in this thread - concerning the Bf109K-4 version!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 1st November 2014, 13:45
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Re: Me262 found at Deelen

Dear Franck,

As you have pointed out, these potential ID plates appear on the Me 262A-1a/U3's. Eger Flugzeugwerke in Czechslovakia was charged with converting Me 262's to this configuration. We know that the A-1a/U3's had a rather unique camouflage scheme and that most, if not all, had a large white outline number on the forward fuselage, although I'm not sure exactly when this was applied. If I recall correctly, David E. Brown told me that the camouflage painting of these machines was of an excellent quality. It is possible that specifically Eger installed ID plates on the aircraft they converted.

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