Soviet Hurricanes - where, when, ...?

[NBE1942]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

Talking of Hurricanes in the Stalingrad Battle, on January 20, 1943 two Rumanian Bf 109E pilots claimed a Hurricane each over Kudinov.

Can the victims' identity be established?

We need to check where is Kudinov. I doubt that this could be Hurricanes as non of the units were equipped with them in VAs around Stalingrad.

[Mirek Wawrzynski]

Key words here are "Stalingrad battle". Other regiments did not live long to be combat ready for the Stalingrad battle.

Yes it is the key word, I think the day of begining of "Fall Blau" was the begining of operation for "capturing" Stalingrad (28 VI 1942). The first phase to capture Voronez, nextr to Don river (Don's bend) and later towards Stalingard. For me this is the period of begining the battle + phases. So it was the first pahse battle for Stalingard of capturing in Novyj Oskol railway stattion a few Hurricanes (2 at least) by German + Hungarian troops + 1 LaGG-3 more. Planes were damaged after belly landing.

Charkov's battle was earlier, a little bit.

С 10.09.1942 г. входила в состав 1-го иак."
This info comming from Vasiliy Kharin's site.

Regards
MirekW

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by NBE1942

We need to check where is Kudinov.

Mapquest found four Kudinov in Russia, all of them located south-west of Stalingrad:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...=&city=kudinov

[NBE1942]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

Mapquest found four Kudinov in Russia, all of them located south-west of Stalingrad:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...=&city=kudinov

There are three variants: one it was Hurricane from Rostov PVO. The possibility is very dismal. Other variants that this is misidentification or overclaim

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by NBE1942

There are three variants: one it was Hurricane from Rostov PVO. The possibility is very dismal. Other variants that this is misidentification or overclaim

I found an additional info on the incident. The pair of Rumaian Bf 109Es flew in the Bataisk-Manitschkaja area. Is this of help to identify where is Kudinov?

Both victories were confirmed by Rumanian air force (ARR) HQ. This, of course, doesn't mean that it could not have been aircraft type misidentification, or overclaim.