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Old 13th January 2007, 17:39
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Re: Soviet Hurricanes - where, when, ...?

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I didn't realise that the Yugoslavs had Yak 3s. I had read something about the trials but had assumed it was the Yak 9 that was involved.

Apparently it wasn't a Malcolm hood tried on the Hurricane, my apologies for saying that, but a field conversion. According to the new Mushroom publication on the Hurricane, anyway. Although the author has not quite understood the Sea Hurricane, and has included some nonsense about a mine-exploding ring, so perhaps more careful reading of the rest of the book is called for - it looks pretty good otherwise.

Re the Dutch: I wouldn't be surprised if a Brewster 439 was at least competitive with a tropicalised Hurricane IIb, if not better at lower altitudes. It is not that the Buffalo was a terrible design, just not good enough.

I must admit being interested by these statements about Finnish overclaiming. I was told that the Finns were exceptionally strict about granting confirmation, and even perfectly normal and understandable overclaiming just did not happen. Ah well, it was a Finn that told me that. Perhaps they weren't superhuman after all.
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Re: Soviet Hurricanes - where, when, ...?

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we Finns are and were normal human beings maybe somewhat stubborn. During the Winter War IMHO Finns claims were exceptionally accurate but during those big air combats over Gulf of Finland in 1942 overclaiming was rife. During same time over Carelia Finnish claims were more accurate ie c. 50% accuracy.
The claim accuracy of Finnish aces varied wildly. For example Puhakka, Sarvanto, Kinnunen and Tani seemed to have been careful claimers but for ex. Wind, Katajainen, Lehtovaara and Tervo were rather notarious overclaimers. And also Juutilainen's claim accuracy wasn't very good. It now seems that in reality his and Puhakka's number of kills are very near each other, around 30 to both. Luukkanen being also in reality 3rd highest scorer.

Last edited by Juha; 14th January 2007 at 00:20. Reason: The new Finnish Conservative leader's name is too close to Katajainen and I used his name in the original list
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Old 13th January 2007, 22:13
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Re: Soviet Hurricanes - where, when, ...?

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I didn't realise that the Yugoslavs had Yak 3s. I had read something about the trials but had assumed it was the Yak 9 that was involved.
They had both, but the comparison was made against Yak-3.
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Apparently it wasn't a Malcolm hood tried on the Hurricane, my apologies for saying that, but a field conversion. According to the new Mushroom publication on the Hurricane, anyway. Although the author has not quite understood the Sea Hurricane, and has included some nonsense about a mine-exploding ring, so perhaps more careful reading of the rest of the book is called for - it looks pretty good otherwise.
For me the booklet looks like a big dissapointment, although funny at times. What the other sources say about the canopy?
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