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Old 3rd January 2008, 14:42
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Re: EZ 42 in FW 190

Hello Andreas,

That sounds very interesting!

I have some production numbers from the diary of Kriegstagebuch Chef TLR, but would have to dig them out. Would be interesting to compare.

Also, I would be interested in how many Me 109 and Fw 190 were equiped with the EZ42.

Is the Me 262 also mentioned in your documents?

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Old 3rd January 2008, 14:46
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Re: EZ 42 in FW 190

Hi,

all aircraft models produced in the given timespan is mentioned, from reconnoissance through fighters and bombers and even school aircraft.

Example:

February 1945,

Nah-aufklärer:

Me 262
No aircraft from ordinary industry, but 13 from Umbau-Industrie. All 13 taken over by GenQu and delivered to NAG 6

Jäger:

Me 262
212 new, 11 repaired, 1 additional repaired, total 224.
93 of these delivered to the industry for further installation of equipment (Nachrüst-betr.)
20 of these delivered to the industry for modifications (Umbau-Industrie)

44 delivered to RLM from Nachrüst-betr.

Thus a total of 155 (224 - 113 = 111 + 44 = 155) aircraft taken over by GenQu.
42 delivered to Lw.Kdo.West and 113 to specifically reported units:
25 I./JG 7
10 II./JG 7
7 III./JG 7
13 I./K.G.(J) 54
19 II./K.G.(J) 54
28 III./K.G.(J) 54
6 III./K.G.(J) 6
3 10./N.J.G.11
1 Fl.Ü.G.1
1 Jgd.Verb.44

Schul:
Me 262
13 new from industry, 3 from nachrüst-betr. and 3 from umbau. = 19 in total taken over by GenQu

9 III./E.J.G.2
3 IV./E.K.G.1
4 Fl.Ü.G.1
2 II./J.G.7
1 II./E.K.G.(J)


Of interest?

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Old 3rd January 2008, 15:13
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Re: EZ 42 in FW 190

HI Andreas,

That's very interesting!

Does the document tell to which Nachrüst/Umbau-Betriebe the Me 262s went?

Is the EZ42 also mentioned with regard to the Me 262?

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Re: EZ 42 in FW 190

Andreas,

looks very promising, allthough the documents sound familiar. I sent you an e-mail for further infromation.

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Old 3rd January 2008, 21:43
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Re: EZ 42 in FW 190

Please give a list of the aircraft deliverd with the EZ42. Your example above of the ME 262 info. doesn't list which aircraft had the EZ42 installed.

I have never seen any information on the EZ42 being installed in Bf-109's. I don't believe it would have fit in the cockpit in any practical way.

I have read the TA-152 was supposed to have it, but have never seen any proof so far.

From what mixed info. I have about the EZ42,

Delivered,
27 or 28 x FW 190D-9's with EZ42
4 x FW190D-11's with EZ42

As I collect gunsights, I constantly look for the EZ42 among others in all pics I come across. In the last 10 years I have found pics of it installed in only four aircraft. If there's more please be so kind as to post them.

I've seen pics of the EZ42 in

FW 190A-8, operational
FW 190D-9, operational
ME 262, testing
Do 335B-2, testing

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Old 4th January 2008, 12:59
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Re: EZ 42 in FW 190

Dear All

I can confirm , as I have seen a clear picture depciting it that EZ 42 was installed in a Fw 190D-11.

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