Savoia Marchetti S.79 wearing strange Luftwaffe Markings/Camouflage

[Dénes Bernád]

It's a comprehensive database I have access to and which I trust.

[Clint Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

It's a comprehensive database I have access to and which I trust.

Thank you Dénes

I shall inform the guys who look after the LEMB database of the possible mix-up. In your opinion what do think the code has a strong chance of being?

Thanks again

Clint

[Clint Mitchell]

Well there is not a lot else it can be? Possible letters according to the photo are Q again?, S, G, or C.

CQ+HQ KlemmKL35 D0077
CQ+HS KlemmKL35W.Nr.1465W.Nr.1465 F0088 -1943-03-02
CQ+HG DornierDo17 Z-2W.Nr.4187W.Nr.4187later DN-61 Finland
CQ+HC Focke WulfFw58 Wetterflugstelle Konigsberg

Above codes from LEMB database. Are these codes the same in your source Dénes? A bit of a puzzle this one!

Clint

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Clinton78

Are these codes the same in your source Dénes? A bit of a puzzle this one!

Here is what I found:
CQ+HQ Klemm Kl 35
CQ+HS Klemm Kl 35
CQ+HG Dornier Do 17 Z-2
CQ+HC He 111 H-3

Puzzle it certainly is!

[Clint Mitchell]

Anyone know of cases where two aircraft could have used the same code? Any chance the HQ+CO Klemm Kl 35 could have been destroyed and the Savoia Marchetti S.79 given the code HQ+CO later or vice versa. I have noticed this before when a Hs126B-1 WNr.374 (V7+1K) was shot down the code was used again by 1./(H)32 when they got FW189A-2 WNr.125243 (V7+1K).

1./(H)32 info from here

Cheers

Clint

[Graham Boak]

The difference is between the unit code, which can indeed be multiply used, and the aircraft's individual identification, which cannot. Duplicate use may be a simple error: with so many aircraft being so handled, the complete absence of error would seem less likely.

Errors have been identified on RAF serials, a fairly directly comparable situation.

[RT]

CQ+HA HeinkelHe111 VIP transport in the Luftflotte 4 d
CQ+HA JunkersJu52 /3m geW.Nr.5989W.Nr.5989 D0025 d
CQ+HA JunkersW34 FFS A/B 121 d
CQ+HB Focke WulfFw58
CQ+HB HeinkelHe111 D0074/68 d
CQ+HC Focke WulfFw58 Wetterflugstelle Konigsberg
CQ+HG DornierDo17 Z-2W.Nr.4187W.Nr.4187later DN-61 Finland
CQ+HH JunkersJu52 /3m first D-ASCKFlugber./Luftflotte 4
CQ+HI JunkersJu52 /3m
CQ+HK SiebelFh104W.Nr.879W.Nr.879 M0002/8/17
CQ+HO Savoia MarchettiS.79
CQ+HQ KlemmKL35 D0077
CQ+HR CantZ.1007 d
CQ+HR KlemmKL35 FFS A/B 24 D0077 d
CQ+HS KlemmKL35W.Nr.1465W.Nr.1465 F0088 -1943-03-02
CQ+HT KlemmKL35 CQ+HUKlemmKL35 Schule/FAR.53 B0002
CQ+HW KlemmKL35
CQ+HY CaudronC.445 FFS A 12
CQ+HZ FieselerFi156

This list is at least interesting for one thing , it shows that these types of listings are pretty hard to build-up,
Quite for sure to CQ+HQ the right plane is the Kl35 , the code was given pres. in the order HQ/HR/HS..to HW, to planes of the same school.

Maybe those planes where at one moment, or an other, destroyed , codes given to new/bowty planes...or..

Remi

[Clint Mitchell]

Originally Posted by RT

Quite for sure to CQ+HQ the right plane is the Kl35 , the code was given pres. in the order HQ/HR/HS..to HW, to planes of the same school.

What about CQ+HO though Remi?

Clint

[Tom Willis]

Hi

I have issues not only with the origin of the SM 79 and how it came into German use but with the other Italian aircraft in the same Stkz block.
CQ+HR
Is this a genuine Stkz for a Cant Z.1007? I ask this because all I have seen is a Profile painting of the aircraft with the oddly coloured painted markings.
Has anyone seen a photo of this aircraft with the said Stkz?

Regards

Tom Willis

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Tom Willis

CQ+HR
Is this a genuine Stkz for a Cant Z.1007?

I have a Kl 35 for this Stkz.