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Old 5th March 2013, 17:08
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Re: unknown WNr.

Very good questions, Franck!

Maybe Charles or Jörn have some insights in this seemingly "pick what you have " process at factory level...

Whas it also a matter of having recycled airframes being reallocated a new W.Nr. after their rebuilding? I'm thinking of those two dataplates affixed under the cockpit we can see on some of those machines... An example a contrario is W.Nr. 163824 which stuck to its original W.Nr. despite its umpteen refurbishing...

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Re: unknown WNr.

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Very good questions, Franck!

Maybe Charles or Jörn have some insights in this seemingly "pick what you have " process at factory level...

Whas it also a matter of having recycled airframes being reallocated a new W.Nr. after their rebuilding? I'm thinking of those two dataplates affixed under the cockpit we can see on some of those machines... An example a contrario is W.Nr. 163824 which stuck to its original W.Nr. despite its umpteen refurbishing...

Ah, headache!
Marc
One solution concerning this "mess" comes from a sentence made by Rasmussen in another thread:
"... The gaps might be due to the air attack from 21st July 1944 on the Mtt Regensburg-Prüfening and Obertraubling factories. Two production hangars full with Bf109s of an advanced and final assembly status had been destroyed almost completely " (sorry no time to find the said thread)

and can be easily pictured by this (for example)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Hence instead of having beautiful lines in a workshop we are facing a lot of little workshops, sprayed all around, with their own tools and their OWN spare parts and building what they can build with what they have.

But! missed an explanation for following WNr.s from a workshop to another one...
I can imagine the guy running with his plate stamping machine from one workshop to another one ... Well, phone is a solution but not that different:
"Hey what WNr. you did?" "782442!" "OK, mine will be 782443" "No, better to check with Hans first, it seams they already did it! " and so on ...

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Old 5th March 2013, 17:29
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Re: unknown WNr.

Peter,

according to G.R. Morrison, W.Nr. 410731 was flown by I./JG 106 and suffered a 25% damage due to pilot eror whilst landing at Germersheim, 3 June 1944. Source: BA/MA.

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Re: unknown WNr.

1944-09-03, 3./Fl.ÜG 1 Süd, Bf 109G-6, 782159, Berg Alber, Bodenmais, Unfreiwillige Bodenberührung infolge Schlechtwetter. Bruch 90 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Tschassownikow, Alexej, +

1944-06-03, I/JG 106, Bf 109G-6, 410731, Fl.Pl. Germersheim, Bedienungsfehler bei Landung. Bruch 25 %.

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I forgot the losses from 2.lines units, take care also that only the "whole-over" of the list is accurate, because the lot of data, one by one not all is 100 % proof!

BF109G 782146
BF109G-14 782148
BF109G-6 782159
BF109G-14 782160
BF109G-6 782207
BF109G-6 782211
BF109G-6 782212
BF109G-6 782219
BF109G-14 782226
BF109G-6 782230
BF109G-14 782232
BF109G-6 782235
BF109G-14 782243
BF109G-6 782256
BF109G-14 782257
BF109G-14 782259
BF109G-14 782260
BF109G-1 782265
BF109G-14 782267
BF109G-14 782268
BF109G-14 782296
BF109G-14 782418
BF109G-14 782776


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Re: unknown WNr.

Yes Franck,

Tough to imagine this actually happening with Hans having it already done;-)) That could be a nice sketch situation:-))

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