Me 109 with unknown emblem, Fw 190 Wk 171680 and other photos

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hello,

I have some new exclusive photo preview of an upcoming Tonelli auction on my blog: http://lwcollectibles.blogspot.com/

There is a very interesting photo of a Me 109 with an emblem on the cowling that I haven't seen before. Does anybody know more about it?

Also, there is a photos of Fw 190 WkNr. 171680 (the first "1" is not 100% sure). Does anybody know anything about its history?

Regards
Roger

[Pawel Burchard]

K.G. 55 emblem?

regards,
Pawel

[F19Gladiator]

Hi Roger,
Looks like an emblem of KG 55 according to page 55 in "Luftwaffen Embleme 1939-1945" by Ketley and Rolfe.
Br
Goran

[F19Gladiator]

Hmmm..thought I've seen something like it before.......Page 87 in Kagero Monographs No.29 shows two pictures of what is captioned as a III/KG(J)55 Bf 109 G-6, W.Nr. 4645??, Yellow 25. It has this emblem on the port side of the cowling.
A colour profile at the back (no page No.) claims the aircraft was found at Straubing in April 1945. Here it is given away as a "G-14".

W.Nr.4645?? ought to be an Erla built G-14.

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hi Pawel and Göran,

That makes sense as KG55 (or KG(J)55)! I just checked http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg55.htm: KG55 was equiped with Me 109 G in the second half of 44 and in 45. I haven't seen a photo of a Me 109 before with this emblem on it. Very interesting.

Thanks
Roger

[Pawel Burchard]

And BTW Dornier on the photograph is not Do 215 but plain early Do 17 Z

regards,
Pawel

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hi Pawel,

Thanks, I have corrected it!

Regards
Roger

[robert]

Hi Roger,

Your Gustaw was found in Plzen (Czech Republic) and could be ultimately used by I/Erg.KG(J) - source "Luftwaffe over Czech Territory 1945 Vol.1".

Regards

Robert

[O.Menu]

Originally Posted by F19Gladiator

Hmmm..thought I've seen something like it before.......Page 87 in Kagero Monographs No.29 shows two pictures of what is captioned as a III/KG(J)55 Bf 109 G-6, W.Nr. 4645??, Yellow 25. It has this emblem on the port side of the cowling.
A colour profile at the back (no page No.) claims the aircraft was found at Straubing in April 1945. Here it is given away as a "G-14".

W.Nr.4645?? ought to be an Erla built G-14.

Yellow 25 is also visible in "Jagdwaffe V5 S2, War in the east" p183, but said to be found at Pilsen...

[F19Gladiator]

Originally Posted by robert

Hi Roger,

Your Gustaw was found in Plzen (Czech Republic) and could be ultimately used by I/Erg.KG(J) - source "Luftwaffe over Czech Territory 1945 Vol.1".

Regards

Robert

Thanks Robert for the pointer! Yes, at page 224.
Also an interesting comment there that there are remains of a white Gruppe bar in front of the fuselage cross, indicating that JG 51 might also have been one of the previous users of this 109.
Goran