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Old 10th June 2016, 21:11
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ID Bf110's of Stab./ZG76, 1941, need help.

Hallo gentlemen!

As we can see from Losslists, Sraffelletter "E" was used by two units, during 1941:
M8+AE to M8+VE was used by Erg.Gr./ZG76 (1 and 2nd Staffel)
M8+WE, M8+XE, M8+YE, M8+ZE were used by Stab./ZG76.

Image is from Luftwaffe in Focus.
Bf 110D or E (enlarged tail is visible) M8+XE. Aircraft of W.Grabmann.
Green X, outlined in white. No victory marks. Unknown spinner tip colors. Unknown emblems. No yellow wingtips. "8" of code is of rounded style.


Images from various sourses.
Bf 110E-2, W.Nr.3761, M8+YE. Well known aircraft of Hptm. G.Schaschke.
Overpaint on fuselage sides. Left tailfin seems was danaged, repaired, and then replaced, and victory bars were repainted in different order.
Green Y with whote outline. up to 19 victory marks. Spinner color: RLM70 base, with 1/3 white. Middle belt - painted in Green, spinner tip - white.
Undersurfaces wingtips - Yellow. No emblems.



Tailfin of this aircraft. Note damage overpainting (in area of swastika) in early july.




And now the most strange aircraft. I got this images long ago, but only recently, during analisys, I got the pilot's name.
Bf110E-2, M8+ZE, W.Nr.4502, Aircraft of Oblt. Hans Krigel.
Oblt. Kriegel was StaKa 7./ZG76 after Oblt. W.Schiller, who was shot down and missed in 2N+BM in sept. 1940.
Kriegel was injured in early 1941, and seems went to Stab./ZG76 upon recovery.
Here is his 2N+DM of 7./ZG76.


Note "Dita", name of his girlfriend.
Here she comes:


And now, aircrafts in Norway:


And then aircrafts receive spinner colors (as described above for M8+YE), "Dita 13" and aircraft codes. Only __+_E" is visible.


It is known, that he had 1 "Western" victory - Beaufighter of 252 Sqdn. RAF, shot down on 16.04.1941. Then, he could achieve some more victories along with his leader, Hptm. Schaschke, against VVS.

Then, aircraft was handed to Zerstorerstaffel./JG77 and > (Z)./JG5, and lost with another pilot at controls. "Z" is green outlined in white. Style of "8" is squared


Tailfin is now exposed in museum.


And now - questional aircrafts.
Bf110E/Trop,
Note enlarged radiators of Trop version, and Stab./ZG76 spinner colors. Also, note "LONY 13" , as with Oblt. Kriegel's aircraft. Also, nose section seeps heavy overpainted.


Bf110E/Trop
Note enlarged radiators of Trop version, and Stab./ZG76 spinner colors. Part of ZG76 unit code visible "_8+__", with green overpainted aircraft code with white outline. Style of "8" is squared, as it is M8+ZE, and on second aircraft of Oblt. Jabs (M8+IP) and some other late II./ZG76 aircrafts. Important is white round, with some inscription inside (simular to DITA 13 and LONY 13)

Also, there is aircraft in background with simular markings.

Gentlemen - what do You think about pilot of M8+ZE (does my suggestion right or not?) and does anybody know something about last two aircrafts?
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