Athens-Tatoi

[Andy Mitchell]

Larry,

They were a pain in the proverbial to locate last time and have so proved again.......

They are in pdf form and can be downloaded from the WWII Operational Documents section of the Combined Arms Research Library http://www.cgsc.edu/carl/contentdm/home.htm.

This section contains a wealth of documents relating to both the European and Pacific wars principally relating ground and naval operations but also including items on USAAF operations and various items on the Luftwaffe.

Example - Sept 1944 World War II Chronology - Military Intellegence Division, US War Department -
(a) Link to the page listing several of these documents - http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/cdm4/results...SOSTART=41,961

(b) link direct to the document page http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/cdm4/documen...OPTR=212&REC=3 -

(c) as in this case most of the documents are in several sections (see links to the left of the page). This document totals 347 pages covering sections on North and Latin American Theatres, Eastern European, Mediterranean, Asiatic, Pacific Ocean, Southwest Pacific and closes with a review of the Political, Ecomonic and Psychological situation at that time.

(d) So far I have only used these documents in relation to Valence, Eleusis and Tatoi however they contain a large amount of information.

(e) Note not all of the monthly chronologies are present on this site - however see my comments below regarding the The Army Air Forces in World War II: Combat Chronology.

Another document with less detail, but probably created from the same information source is this - http://www.milhist.net/usaaf/mto.html covering the USAAF operations in the Med. Now this is an online document but I have also downloaded a complete chronology of approx 900+ pages from this URL The Army Air Forces in World War II: Combat Chronology

Hope that this explains some of the sources. Larry, if you feel my citations require amending please let me know.

[Larry deZeng]

Thanks for the reply and clarification, Andy.

Many if not most here are familiar with the U.S. Army Air Forces in World War II: Combat Chronology and Eric Hammel's Air War Europa Chronology (Pacifica Press, 1994), in fact, I'm looking at both of them right now on my bookshelf. But your entries for Eleusis and Tatoi were much more numerous and included bomb tonnage on target, which the two works I just noted do not have, and that's what caught my eye. I knew you had located a much more detailed source but I could not find it for love nor money. Now I know why. That cgsc.edu site is absolutely the most difficult web site to navigate and find thing on that I have ever seen. It was created eons ago, in fact before the personal computers were in wide use, and they never changed the operating software to make it user friendly. I shudder just thinking about having to go there and look for something.

So thanks for providing some links to exactly where you found the detailed raid data. When I have more time tomorrow, I will go there armed with your links and see if I can get to it. Right now, though, it's Super Bowl time in the Z.I., which is the equivalent of your Euro Cup and World Cup combined with maybe a Manchester vs Liverpool match thrown in on top of it.

So off I go.

L.

P.S. Here is what I had on Tatoi - except for some more air and ground units, it's much the same as what Byron provided:

Tatoi (GR) (a.k.a. Athens-Tatoi) (c. 38 06 N – 23 47 E)
General: airfield 15 km N of Athens near the town of Akharnaí in SE Greece. Attacked on 8 December 1943 (by 15th AAF B-24s); 14 December (by 33 B-24s); 15 September 1944 (by B-24s); 24 September (by B-24s).
Air Units: III./JG 52, 8./JG 27, Stab, I. u.II./ZG 26, III./KG 3, II. u.III./KG 76, 3.(F)/Aufkl.Gr. 33, Stab/FAGr. 4; 2.(F)/Aufkl.Gr. 123, 4.(H)/Aufkl.Gr. 22; Wekusta 27; San.Flugbereitschaft 7 (Mar 43); II./TG 4;
Erg./Ers. Units: III./St.G. 151 (May – Aug 43);
Station Commands: Fl.H.Kdtr. E 6/VI, Fl.H.Kdtr. E 27/XII (1941), Fl.H.Kdtr. A 203/IV; Fl.H.Kdtr. A 211/III (c. Mar 43 – Apr 44), Fl.H.Kdtr. A(o) 106/XVII (with Ln.-Stelle A 106/XVII) (Apr – Oct 44).
Station Units (some): 5. Flugh.Betr.Kp./KG 26; Werft-Kp. 2; Werft-Kp. Südost (one Zug); Werft-Zug 108; Flieger-Werkstattzug 3/IV; Frontreparaturbetrieb GL 2571 (D.L.H.); Verbindungsstelle GL; Alp.Bergungstrupp 2/XVII; Flugzeug-Bergungstrupp (mot) 1/XI; Ldssch.Zug 227/VI and 365/VI; Strafvollstreckungs-Zug Südost z.b.V. 1.

[Andy Mitchell]

Other documents found in the CARL digital library include:-


Airborne invasion of Crete

German AA Artillary - a 1943 intelligence document.

Rescue of Mussolini. - Translated from German into English by Katherine A. Mull. Austrian and German officer's personal account of the assignment from Hitler to rescue Mussolini in the summer of 1943. Includes meeting with Hitler.

[Andy Mitchell]

Larry,

Hope that they help.

I believe that the first time I downloaded the USAAF WWII Combat chronology was from the Maxwell site but I'm having problems with the links at present as they recently rebuilt their site.

[byron-]

Andy,

I have hier some damaged Ju 52 planes in the airfield Tatoi of KG z.b.V. 1

Werk Nr. Ort Besch. % Grund Datum Gruppe


5296 Tatoi 100 Bod.Berühr. 01.06.41 II
5977 Tatoi 60 Notlandung 20.06.41 I
2960 Tatoi 15 Bruchlandung 26.07.42 III 11. Staffel
5054 Tatoi 100 Absturz 27.07.42 II
3304 Tatoi 20 Rollschaden 17.09.42 IV
7833 Tatoi 100 09.11.42 I

[Larry deZeng]

Re that Combined Arms Whatever site. Whatta waste. The sucker either doesn't download at all or it takes two days to download one document. And I have broadband accelerated (20 GB a nanosecond). Screw it.

L.

[byron-]

and some more...

Flugbereitschaft X. Fl.Korps mit folgenden bekannten Maschinen:

Fi 156 C-3, (NE+KY, W.Nr. 5207) 10% 17.09.41-04.10.42, 04.10.42 Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
Fi 156, (W.Nr. 4465) 50% Bombenwurf 10.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
Do 17 Z (DK+TE, W.Nr. 3253) 100%. Bombenwurf 04.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
Do 17 Z, (W.Nr. 1210) 100% FF. Fw. Lorenz Bantel, BM. Siegfried Habenbacher, (+) Abst. 26.08.43 S.O. Tatoi,
Caudron 445 A-1, (CD+YF, W.Nr. 0481) 25.08.41 Bruchlandung Tatoi,

16./Fl.Verb.G. 2

14.12.43Fi 156 (W.Nr. 1440) 30% Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi

Kurierstaffeld.Lw.Südost / Tatoi / Athen (07.42-01.10.44) Fp.Nr. 50 660

Wekusta 27 (09.06.43-10.44): 14.12.43 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 142431) 20% Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi

A.Gr. 1. (F) 121

FF. Fw. Fritz Albrecht (+), Ju 88 A5 (W.Nr 684) 100% m. BO. Fw. Julius Gerhard (+), BF. Uffz. Kurt
Knuschke (vw.), BS. Uffz. Heinz Büttner (+), Hindernisberührung 26.08.41 Tatoi

Aufklärungsgruppe 2. (F) 123 Fp.Nr. 00 461

FF. Uffz. Walter Schäfer, Ju 88 D1 (4U+8K, W.Nr. 430733) 100% m. BO. Ofw. Erhard Schäfer, BF. Uffz. Heinz Thurm (vw.) alle anderen (+) 16.06.43, abgestürzt infolge Mottorschaden 4 Km. südl. Tatoi,
FF. Uffz. Julius Meinschard, Ju 88 D1 (4U+HK, W.Nr. 430799) 100% m. BO. Oblt. Bernhard Themel,
BF. Uffz. Kurt Bräutmann, BS. Uffz. Kurt Apelt, alle (+) 27.06.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Uffz. Helmut Ehrig, Ju 88 D1 (4U+NK, W.Nr. 430777) 100% m. BO. Ltn. Albert Götz, BF. Uffz. Otto Bechtold, BS. Uffz. Ludwig Kock, Motorschaden, alle (+) 06.07.43 bei Tatoi,
09.08.43Ju 88 D-I, (W.Nr. 430751) 100% Absturz infolge Motorbrand, Besatzung unverletzt, Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
21.08.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430599) 30%, Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
25.08.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430635) 30%, Bruchlandung infolge Motorstörung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
04.09.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430774) 35%, Fahrwerkschaden bei Landung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
23.09.43 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 142524) 70% Bauchlandung, Fahrwerkschaden, dann von Ju 88 gerammt, Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Uffz. Heinz Hagmann, Ju 88 A4 (4U+JK, W.Nr. 430627) 95% m. BO. Uffz. Harry Brosinski, BS. Ogfr. Fritz Hastenpflug, alle (vw.) durch Kolission mit Maschine (W.Nr. 142524) 23.09.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Ltn. Karl Dittmann, Ju 88 D1 (4U+LK, W.Nr. 430719) 95% m. BO. Fw. Wilhelm Hennecke,
BS. Fw. Paul Faupel, beim Start von Ju 52 gerammt, alle (vw.) 26.09.43 in Tatoi,
FF. Fw. Heinz Ditzer, Ju 88 D1 (4U+JK, W.Nr. 430502) 100% m. BO. Fw. Heinrich Lichius, BF. Uffz. Robert
Danek, BS. Fw. Werner Schwerdt, Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung u. verbrannt, alle (vw.) 18.11.43 Tatoi,
19.11.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430038) 15% Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung in Tatoi, Besatzung unverletzt,
FF. Ltn. Heinz Ditzer, Ju 88 D1 (4U+ZK, W.Nr. 430090) 100% m. BO. Fw. Otto Görner, BF. Uffz. Robert Danek, alle (vw.) 20.03.44 beim Start Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
09./10.44 Fi 156 (4U+XK) Tatoi,

Jagdgeschwader 52:
III./JG 52Fp.Nr. 26 978 / 32 781, 30.05.41 Bf 109 (W.Nr. 3449) 75% Bruchlandung Tatoi,

6./ZG. 26:
BF. Uffz. Kurt Schwann (+), Bf 110 B3 (W.Nr. 4232) 100% Flakbeschuss 23.04.41 Flpl. Tatoi,

III./ZG. 26:
21.02.42 Bf 110 E2 (W.Nr. 4531) 50% Rollschaden Tatoi,


Erg.Gruppe/St.G. 3, Fp.Nr. 31 153

FF. Ltn. Dr. Horst Müller, Ju 87 (W.Nr. 6263) 90% m. BF. Uffz. Friedrich Kozminsky, beide (+) 26.04.43
Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Ltn. Walter Pöttmann (+), Absturz, 26.04.43 Tatoi, BF. unverletzt,

13./St.G. 151:
BF. Ogfr. Otto Ditzum, Absturz 13.07.43 Tatoi,

I./KG 2:
30.04.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2751) 40% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
02.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 4190) 15% Fahrwerkschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
13.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2785) 20% Feindbeschuss Fl.Pl. Tatoi, (W.Nr. 2793) 15% Flakbeschuss Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
20.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 1175) 12% Rollschaden Tatoi,
21.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2650) 65% Rollschaden Tatoi
1./KG 2:
AP. Gfr. Heinrich Hottenbach (+), AP. Ogfr. Willi Döhmer (vw.), AP. Flg. Heinz Doetsch (vw.),
BF. Fw. Hermann Meiering (vw.), Kfz. Unfall, 01.05.41, Strasse Athen Tatoi,
III. KG 2:
30.04.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2751) 40% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
21.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 4228) 80% Rollschaden Tatoi,
24.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2694) 90% Rollschaden Tatoi, FF. Uffz. Michael Teters,
30.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 3461) 45% Bruchlandung Tatoi
7./KG 2 :
FF. Uffz. Michael Teters (vw.), Do 17 Z (U5+R, W.Nr. 2694) 90% Zusammenstoss beim Rollen mit Ju 52,
24.05.41 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

III./ KG 3:
13.05.41 Do 17 (W.Nr. 4212) 20% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
13.05.41 Do 17 (W.Nr. 3435) 75% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

II./KG 6:
27.09.43 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 550226) 25% Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

Chef-Ausbildungswesen (A.W.) – Gruppe:
10.10.44 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 0183) 100% Absturz Fl.Pl. Tatoi, FF. Wolf Renek (+),
FF. Fw. Anton Rauch (+), Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 0183) 100% m. BO. Oblt. Georg Denkmann (+), BF. Fw. Otto Butz (vw.), BS. Fw. Felix Czeck (+), Absturz und Aufschlagbrand, 10.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

II./KG 100:
FF. Uffz. Nisterer m. BO. Ogfr. Laupeckle, BF. Gfr. Nath, BM. Ogfr. Brothage, BS. Gfr. Heidlack, alle (vw.), Fehlstart 18.10.42 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

K.Gr. zbV. 104:
24.05.41 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 6771) 80% Rollschaden Tatoi (Stab),
24.05.41 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 5988) 50% Rollschaden Tatoi

Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 300:
18.12.41 Ju 52 (CH+HP) 100% auf dem Flug von Fl.Pl. Tatoi nach Derna Abstury im Hemettos-Gebirge,
FF. Fw. Wilhelm Steding, Ju 52 (…+AI, W.Nr. 6398) 100% m. BF. Uffz. Heinz Treizt, BM. Uffz. Alfred Geiswinkler, BS. Gfr. Paul Müller, alle (+) Absturz 18.12.41 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
BF. Uffz. Philipp Flott (vw.), Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7207) 100% Bodenberührung , restl. Besatzung, 2 Offiziere und 2 Unteroffiziere leicht (vw.), 17.12.41 bei Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
20.12.41 Ju 52 (DG+SX) 30% Bruchlandung, kein Personenschaden, Fl.Pl. Tatoi

K.Gr.z.b.V.600:
12.09.42 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7161) 100% Absturz Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
03.11.42 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7192) 50% Rollschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
1./Kgr. zbV. 600, St.Kpt., FF. Hptm. von Düsterloh, Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7475) 70% mit BF. Uffz. Seike, Bruch nach Start, beide (v.) 18.10.42 Fl.Pl. Tatoi

1./Kgr. zbV. 800, 12.09.42 mit 4 Ju 52 aus Prindisi in Tatoi eingetr., St.Kpt.,


Stab I ./Transp.G. 4:
FF. Oblt. Ludwig Eckert (+), FF. Uffz. Arnold Wagner (+), FF. Ofw. Kurt Kerwarth (vw.), FF. Uffz. Theodor Könders (vw.), FF. Ofw. Helmut Heinrich (vw.), FF. Fw. Gustav van Alst (vw.), BF. Fw. Hans Gorf (+), BF. Uffz. Gero Fuhrmann (vw.), BF. Gfr. Friedrich Höhlig (vw.), BM. Uffz. Albert Hartmann (vw.), BS. Gfr. Otto Hampel (+), BS. Uffz. Herbert Petzold (+), Bombenwurf 04.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi, 9 Fluggäste tot
13.07.43 Ju 52 (G6+AL, W.Nr. 2832) 100% Absturz Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
17.09.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 130705) 15% Rollschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
26.09.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 3160) 30% Zusammenstoss bei der Landung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
04.10.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 10007) 100%, Ju 52 (W.Nr. 2977) 100%, Bf 108 (W.Nr. 2071)100%, Bombenwurf Tatoi,
10.10.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 3124) 30% Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
02.11.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 6277) 15% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
08.11.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 130511) 10% Rollschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
1./TG 4, FF. Ogfr. Kurt Stöver mit BO. Uffz. Walter Borgmann, BM.Uffz. Bernhard Jopek, alle (+) 04.10.43 Tatoi

[byron-]

I agree with you Larry

screw it more than once

[Andy Mitchell]

Larry/Byron,

Many thanks for your comments and extra detail.

Will start adding over the next few days.

Re CARL - some of the files are quite large and therefore take a while to download. It has nothing to do with your speed, theirs is damn slow at times.

[Tony Jones]

Hi

The last one I feel is incorrect as the last c/n in the series was 7800. So this one should be 7*33

Regards

Tony