Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945

[Dénes Bernád]

Rémi,

I have the following:
Hs 129B-2
141251
10.(Pz)/SG 9
45. márc. 22.
Flak.
RVT Ost
Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)
North of Glenztal
25%

Did this event happen on 22 Jan. or 22 March?

[RT]

My mistake, you are right the date is 22.March

Rémi

[AreKal]

Hi
Thanks to this great database, Rémi! This is a big job!
Best Regards
Arek

[gogh]

Hi Denis
First thanks for the list. I have a few comments.
If You look at this site http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/index.html
for the W.Nr. then I noticed the following things

-W.Nr.120294 Fw190A-8 of 1945-01-27 should then be a A-2
-W.Nr.680180 Fw190A-5 of 1945-01-28 should then be a A-8
-W.Nr.960033 Fw190A-9 of 1945-01-20 should then be a A-8
-W.Nr.960723 Fw190A-9 of 1945-01-20 should then be a A-8

or are these 4 rebuilts ?

Best Regards

Peter van Gogh

[RT]

You are obviously right Peter, the list is just the exact copy of what is said on the docs, a lot of work hv to be done to clean it , but before I hv to add thousands of new data,

There is no finish line,

Remi

[barkas]

Hallo,
it´s great list, I have a short supply from my lokal reports.

45.01.21 ?? PHID Nr. 094
45.01.21 Fw190 932179
45.01.22 TG 3 Ju188 150540
45.01.23 Bf109 464828
45.01.23 Bu181 KOVW
45.01.23 KG(J) 6 Bf109 163498 Konig Rudolf Obfw.
45.01.23 KG(J) 6 Bf109 332758
45.01.23 LKS 7 Bu181 501585 Wilde Karl Heinz Gefr. KO+VH
45.01.24 Fw190 426056
45.01.25 SG 151 Fw190
45.01.26 KG(J) 27 Bf109 332516
45.01.26 NJG 102 Bf110 740266 7J+IE
45.01.26 NJG 102 Bf110 7J+XF
45.01.26 NJG 102 Bf110 7J+SS
45.01.29 KG(J) 6 Bf108 6Q+EA
45.01.31 ??zweimot.
45.01.31 KG(J) 30 Ar96 425094
45.01.31 KG(J) 30 Fw190 470581 Hettig Hans Uffz.
45.01.24 TLNM
45.01.30 NSGr.4 Ju87 131392 Vogel Franz Ofhr.
Plank Johann Uffz.
45.01.30 ??jagd
45.01.31 Si204 GP+KH

Can you help me with complete this chart?

[Bart V.]

20 1 45 LF6 14 Eis KG55 X X ,,,, xxxx Herkner RKT ltn f

What is your source for 20.1.45? I've that Leutnant Erich Herkner was shot down by FlaK above Litzmannstadt on 17 January 1945? (What does LF6 14 Eis mean?)

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Bart V.

(What does LF6 14 Eis mean?)

Hi Bart,

I'm trying to answer:
LF6: Luftflotte 6. means that KG55 was under LF6 command when the loss occured.
http://www.ww2.dk/air/hq/lfl6.htm
...and the lost report was received & registered by this Higher Headquarter.

14 Eis: Read 14.(Eis)/KG 55. an independant (more or less) staffel of KG 55. For Eis meaning, I don't know; Einsatz??... Written 14.(Eins)/JG 55 in the Kracker list.
http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg55.htm

Good luck and be patient; sometimes it's necessary!!!!

Cheers, Franck.

[red-star25]

Eis stands for Eisenbahn. (trains)
This was a special unit for destroying the rail transport system.

Regards

Dirk

[ouidjat]

Hello all,

In fact it's very valuable to read these losses enlightened by the documents put in Line by Byron here: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=29988

3./(E)J.G. 1 and or 10.(E)/J.G. 1 and/or Schusstaffel (E) J.G. 1 (to choose some between 15) clearly indicate EJG 1 and more important when some Fl.Pl. like Görlitz, Königgratz and Sagan-Küpper are indicated.

There is no eins/ErgGr. at all or Erg. Staffel. and so on. Knowing that only III./JG 1 used Bf109G at that period add a final touch.
Last JG 1 was under LFl. 6 command?

I must thank Byron very much to give us something to understand.

Cheers, Franck.