Ju 88 A-17 ??+DP

[thenelm]

As Chris said, the General Quartermaster loss reports - Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.23.

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[edNorth]

DB601E

I said in post before: "And there is mis-match in info +DP could indicate II Gruppen but "from 8. LT BK" might it not indicate III Gruppen (?)"

Now agreeing this is indeed unit code - It comes out as Yellow outlined Black "D" but "R" is 7. Staffeln (III Gruppen). I put some more light & contrast in that picture (and uploded again). Thus +DP turned out +DR

The Luftwaffe Unit code experts now possibly can search for all the possible Ju 88 A-4 LT (A-17) Torpedo Bombers unit coded 3Z+DR or 1H+DR. I discount this might be III Gruppen of a Schulen unit.

Othervise I thank you for sharing this picture with us, pictures of Ju 88 A´s carrying Torpedos are rather rare, and that clear view adds up to the overall "big picture".

Best regards
ed

[DB601E]

Hi Ed,


Fortunatly this mechanic was writing a very accurate list of dates and places of his wartime actions with 8. LT BK unit. If you compare these dates and places with II.KG26, it fits very well:
Grosseto, Villacidro, Vallence. (Source Holm)
Only timings doesn't fit sometimes very well. But for sure, the supporting torpedo mechanics unit was always a little bit slower to move.
I will check also the KG26 book "Torpedo los" this night for places and timings again, as i have the suspicion, some given dates/places for KG 26 could be wrong.

I want to work and research on this unit, as there is almost nothing known about. And he told me some nice stories and has interesting pictures for my special area of interest: Italy and southern france.

Greetings

Lino

[DB601E]

Hi Ed,

sorry but you are right: I was looking to the image again and changing contrast: It is more likely a +DR.

So i'm sorry also for anybody else, trying to help me finding my ??+DP, the game is restartet again for the search for ??+DR.

Thanks a lot

Lino

[DB601E]

Hi,

attached you'll find a excell sheet, where i have tried to compare timings and locations for 8. LT BK and torpedo units. Note that it is based on a former member of 1. Zug 8. LT BK and there is a gap because of Malaria.
Finally for the picture i would now guess it is an AC from KG 26, so marking should be 1T+DR.

Does anybody has an event/crash for 1T+DR ?

Greetings

Lino

[edNorth]

The code 1T+xx is (if I remember correctly) old code of KuFlGr 506 (from June 1942), then became III/KG 26 and operated (still with same Ju 88 A-4´s) in Norway/Finland (September 1942), then moved to Mediterranean in autumn (October/November 1942). A/c still with old code but I belive by May 1943 only code 1H+ was used (but I do not remember exactly).

http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg26.htm