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Old 2nd August 2005, 23:16
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III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

Hi can anybody help with the following.
Im looking for information regarding the loss of 6 Heinkel 111's on the 8/9.7.41
in particular any crew details, werknummern, unit codes .

What information i have is somewhat brief, and the only crew i have is that of
Lt. Horst Ludwigs.

Any help would be most appreciated.
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Old 3rd August 2005, 01:07
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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

Hi Steve,

All I can come up with is;

08.07.41 9/KG26 He 111H-5 Wnr.3947 1H + GT Lt. Günter Adler +
2 others KIA 1 MIA. (Birmingham)

08.07.41 9/KG26 He 111H-6 Wnr.4098 1H + BT Uffz. Gerhard Fingerhut MIA, 2 others MIA 1 KIA.

Lw Loss Reports (microfilm roll 3)

Sorry, I do not have the full crew lists but hope this info helps a little!
Good luck,

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Old 3rd August 2005, 01:37
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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

From "The Blitz Then and now volume 3"

July 8-9 night
At night Great Yarmouth was the main objective and a total of six aircraft were lost, two of them in Britain. 3 He111s of III/KG 26 and a Ju88 of 1/KG 30 also failed to return.

Only losses crashing in Britain are detailled in this book. For this night, they are two

He111H-5 WNr 3983 of 7./KG 4 shot down by Flt Lt R A Chisoholm and Sgt W G Ripley in a Beaufighter of 604 Sqn. Crashed at Big Ringsdon Filed, Helwell Farm, Kenton, Devon 1.30 a.m. Lt A Engelhardt baled out and taken prisoner, Uffz P Manger, Gefr F Frotzler and Uffz J Arndt killed. Aircraft 5J+GR broke up in air. Pieces held by the Severnside Aviation Society and Philippa Hodgkiss.

Ju88A-6 WNr 3451 of 3/KG 30 shot down by Flg Off K I Geddes and Sgt A C Cannon in a Beaufighter of 604 Sqn. Crashed at Vale Acre Farm, Alderholt, Dorset 2.65 a.m. Fw W Schönauer, Uffz O Jahn, Uffz H Dapper and Gefr R Safer baled out and taken prisoner. Aircraft 4D+GL totally wrecked. SIte investigated by Simon Parry in August 1983 and one propeller blade and undercarriage leg recovered.

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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

Many thanks Melvin and Laurent.

This helps very much, thank you for your time and effort.
Just need to find info on the 3 a/c that failed to return from the raid on Great
Yarmouth, on the evening of 8/9.7.41.

I also have a loss on the the 8.7.41 [ daytime] HE111H-5 1H + GS w.nr ?
No crew details. Failed to return from ops. to Southampton .
No further details.
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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

Hi Steve,

Glad that Laurent and I could be of service! Here are a few more which might help.

(1) 3/KG27 He 111H-5 Wnr.4024 1G + GL Uffz. Julius Abromeit MIA with crew on the 08.07.41, cause unknown.

(2) 3/KG28 He 111H-5 Wnr.3992 1T + HL (yellow H) Uffz. Heinz Weindorf POW. Shot down by beaufighter of No.604 Sqdn. 1 other POW + 2 KIA.

(3) 1/KGr.100 He 111P-2 Wnr.6894 Uffz. Karl Lammert KIA. Shot down by Beaufighter of No.604 Sqdn (Speke & Dawson) 3 KIA 1 POW.

(4) Stab IV/KG27 He 111H-2 Wnr.2799 1G + AF Uffz. Albert Assmuth KIA.
Mission Southampton. Shot down off Selsey Bill by a Beaufighter. 4 KIA 1 POW.

Last two losses can be found with some others on page 53, The Blitz T & N Vol.3

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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

Hi Melvin,

Many thanks once again.
Thank you for the extra losses.

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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

A last precision: the four extra losses listed above by Melvin Brownless were during a raid on Southampton on the night of 7-8 July 1941.
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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

Hi Laurent,

Many thanks to you too!

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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

I thought I'd add my little bit of info which you might not be already aware of but there's a book "Achtung - Torpedos los!" by Rudi Schmidt" which could very well be helpful. Unfortunately it is all in German. And of course this book is solely on KG26.

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Re: III/KG26 Losses 8/9.7.41

Hi Derek,

Thank you for taking the trouble to help with my request.
As it so happens, i wasn't aware of this book, but i will look into finding more info
about it.
Many thanks.
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