Alfons Kuttenberger of Jg 52 or JG 51? and more

[Johannes]

Hi Guys
I have been pondering the same details, though I had them as Alfred(don't know where I got this from) and Alfons. But saying that there is a section of Micro film with each guys claims listed by date only, only a short section covering Kr-Le surnames. This has only Alfons(Leutnant) with 7./Jg52 with claims Eingereicht=1(then crossed through and replaced by 4)Anerkannt=2(then crossed through and replaced by 5) and finally Abgelehn A.S.M=1. Seems as though he had three, but then this was ammended later to six. Also there is no conclusion to his earlier claims i.e he just stops for no reason, he was not killed or wounded or taken prisoner, and also this Kr-Le has listed the six claims as 18th August 1941 1705 hrs, 2nd August 1941 0550 hrs, 9th August 1941 1840 hrs, 12th September 1943 1107 hrs, 14th September 1943 0620 hrs & 0943 hrs(no other details). So the obvious conclusion is that he was demoted! He was killed on 16th September 1943. Bernd Barbas is the most authoritive person regarding Jg52, he knows/knew most of the surviving pilots well and would have enquired about him, regarding the 23 claims, I would say this is spurious, have seen this many times with others, regarding demotion, the obvious rank to be demoted to is the lowest! for whatever reason.......insubordination or perhaps he caused the accidental death of a colleague?

Hope this helps

Regards

Johannes