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Old 23rd May 2010, 11:21
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Re: Hans Ulrich Rudel at Kursk

I read that link and it seems that there is discussion that Ju 87G-1 actually took part in the tank battle of mid July? I thought that was already substantiated. Pawel, any input?

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Old 23rd May 2010, 19:01
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Re: Hans Ulrich Rudel at Kursk

Interesting discussion to say the least. It puts paid to a lot of claims, something not uncommon as we are all discovering in recent years. It would appear that overclaiming was not just an "air force" fighter pilots' problem, but others as well.

Not being widely read on some issues, I am suprised at the comments about David Glantz's authorship. I thought he was highly respected as a Western scholar of Eastern Front action in WWII
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Re: Hans Ulrich Rudel at Kursk

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I read that link and it seems that there is discussion that Ju 87G-1 actually took part in the tank battle of mid July? I thought that was already substantiated. Pawel, any input?

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I do not know, the only evidence of Ju 87 G early operations is that from KTB Stab Stuka 2 during the Kuban-battle, when VfP was attached to Stuka 2 in May 1943. The KTB gives the exact numbers of 3,7 cm-ammunition used up daily, so we can be certain that Ju 87 Gs were actually engaged. For the July 1943 nothing similar is available. I do not even know if VfP was further used as 'autonomic' unit or the Gs were spread throughout variuos Stuka Gruppen.

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