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Lancaster DV222
Hi,
i’m currently collecting some information about sunken AC in my region. One wreck in a lake called Walchensee in bavaria was a Lancaster. The remaining pieces have been almost completely salvaged in 1952. I have already collected a lot of the history of this aircraft , the different salvage operations and what happens to the crew after crash and salvage. But there is still something missing: Does anybody know pictures of this Lancaster and his crew? Also details for crew members would be great. I just got some info for Waters. Serial No: DV222 Date: 03 October 1943 Crew Names: Sgt. D.W.H. Butterfield +; Sgt. J.A. Young +; Sgt. D.R.L. Crapper-Bovey +; Sgt. J.N.E.R. Labelle, RACF +; Sgt. D.H. Strong +; Sgt. R.A. Waters +; Sgt. J. Jackson + Thanks a lot for help and best greetings from bavaria Lino |
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Re: Lancaster DV222
Gruss Gott, Lino
OK, in case you haven't yet got this info, the aircraft was from 12 Squadron flying from RAF Wickenby. It was coded PH-G2 (the "2" was because there was an aircraft with the code PH-G already on the Squadron (presumably a replacement while DV222 was away for repair after a heavy landing in August 1943) and not back on Operations until late September. (No, I don't know why they didn't change the letter, presumably easier to add the "2" or that the crew wanted to fly a "G" for George callsigned aircraft!!). Name: BUTTERFIELD, DEREK WILLIAM HANSON. Initials: D W H. Rank: Pilot Officer Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Unit Text: 12 Sqdn. Age: 20. Date of Death: 03/10/1943. Service No: 162505 Additional information: Son of Ralph Sydney and Madge Butterfield, of Haxby, Yorkshire. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 131. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL Name: CRAPPER-BOVEY, DERRICK ROY LIONEL. Initials: D R L. Rank: Sergeant Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Unit Text: 12 Sqdn. Age: 29. Date of Death: 03/10/1943. Service No: 1187563 Additional information: Son of Frederick John and Ethel Crapper-Bovey; husband of Betty Joan Crapper-Bovey, of Eldoret, Kenya. Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 146. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL Name: JACKSON, JOHN. Initials: J. Rank: Sergeant Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Unit Text: 12 Sqdn. Date of Death: 03/10/1943. Service No: 1564702 Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 154. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL Name: LABELLE, JOSEPH NAPOLEON EMILE ROGER. Initials: J N E R. Nationality: Canadian Rank: Flight Sergeant. Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Air Force. Unit Text: 12 Sqdn. Date of Death: 03/10/1943. Service No: R/150233 Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 183. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL Name: STRONG, DONALD HUGH. Initials: D H. Rank: Sergeant Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Unit Text: 12 Sqdn. Age: 21. Date of Death: 03/10/1943. Service No: 1214453 Additional information: Son of Charles Herbert and Kathleen Strong, of Regent's Park, London. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 166. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL Name: WATERS, REGINALD ARTHUR. Initials: R A. Rank: Sergeant (Air Gnr.) Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Unit Text: 12 Sqdn. Age: 19. Date of Death: 03/10/1943. Service No: 1601324 Additional information: Son of Arthur Henry and Ethel Louisa Waters, of Bickley, Kent. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 1. K. 11. Cemetery: DURNBACH WAR CEMETERY Name: YOUNG, JAMES ARTHUR. Initials: J A. Rank: Sergeant Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Unit Text: 12 Sqdn. Date of Death: 03/10/1943. Service No: 1561575 Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 171. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL As LaBelle was RCAF, it may be possible to obtain further details from his file, which may contain more than the RAF files. There is a 12 squadron Association. You might try contacting No's 12/626 Squadron Association, (The Wickenby Register). Care of Mr. G.A.G. Monk 25 Orchard Gardens Effingham, Surrey KT24 5NR England who may have further details you require. Tschuss! |
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Re: Lancaster DV222
Hi Lino,
Here's the Nachtjagd claim for this a/c: Hptm. Rudolf Sigmund: 28 Stab III./NJG3 Lancaster in Walchensee, S. München: 5.600 m 00.06 12 Sqn Lancaster DV222 Herzlichen Gruss aus Gronnigen, Theo |
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Re: Lancaster DV222
Hi Icare and Theo,
thanks a lot for the information and help. This information i have already collected, but the reason for the marking and the time of repair was new to me. As far as i know, Rudolf Siegmund died the next night, when he and his crew were shot down on their next mission. I'm not so familiar doing research for UK losses and archives. I have already contacted the CWGC (Waiting for more information) and was in contact with the Wickenby register, where i already have received some precious and interesting information. Are there any other usefull sources or archives? @Icare9 Do you know a source or contact for RCAF researches regarding Labelle? Thanks a lot for help and best greetings from still rainy bavaria Lino |
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Re: Lancaster DV222
Lino, I have this address, but there may be another for RCAF Records which I'll post if I find it before others beat me to it!!
Research Services Division National Archives of Canada 395 Wellington Street Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N3 Canada Edit: and Personnel Records Unit, Library and Archives Canada, 395 Wellington Street, Ottawa, ON K1A 0N3 Fax: (613) 947 8456 (which actually looks to be a variation on the above!!) from a lovely warm London!! |
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Re: Lancaster DV222
Hi Icare,
thansk a lot for the adress, I'll try to get in contact. Greetings Lino |
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