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Old 15th August 2010, 18:19
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Re: Luftwaffe Ju 88 in Italy, July 1940

Hi All,

First I like to thank Christoph Regel for the truly remarkabe photos of the crashed A-1 NE+TX (short wing´s) and the three aircraft togeather, and also Ferdinando D´Amico for his almost forgotten research and excellent translation (and Gianandrea Bussi also for his part).

Yes, this all adds a lot to the story (also as the Italian proved much harder for me to translate than I thought). I have no actual W.Nr. or historical data on Ju 52/3m GS+AM (but like adding it) nor any production details about Ju 88 A-1 NE+TX (was it perhaps designated A-1/trop or had it possibly an Versuch number also?) On the He 111 (likely an H-3 version as per part plate found from part of aircraft made close by during the late 1939 period. This dataplate was found in Norway. As per one of Regel´s photos - "Grey 91" - this indeed was W.Nr. 5691 NH+NJ. This is known, along with other He 111 codes data as coming from ATG Leipzig. Actual listed and confirmed (written in Bold) and flights come from Baltabol log´s. It´s quite interesting there to see that He 111 NH+NK came before NH+NJ and the codes assigned around them apparently continiuing and these were ´singular´ assignments. I like very much if someone can state W.Nr. for GS+AM and also confirm W.Nr. of NE+TX (the latter I belive came from Heinkel assembly). LEMB Stkz. database gives NE+TV as 6093 but interpolating NE+TX (then 6095 if in cronological and nummerical order) does not seem to fit (as this has two references as still with the Luftwaffe later in 1940 and 1942. I thus belive some mix occurring also with the NE+T codes (or the LEMB list have number not correct). ATG He 111 list below:

5640 He 111 H-3 Abnahme 11.39 http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/vanna.html
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5662 He 111 H [TT+AO] ATG Einflug 04.12.39
5663 He 111 H [TT+AP] ATG
5664 He 111 H [TT+AQ] ATG Nachflug 10.12.39
5665 He 111 H [TT+AR]
5666 He 111 H [TT+AS]
5667 He 111 H [TT+AT]
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5668 He 111 H [NH+NK] ATG Einflug 14.12.39
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5669 He 111 H [TT+AU]
5670 He 111 H [TT+AV]
5671 He 111 H [TT+AW] ATG Einflug 17.12.39
5672 He 111 H [TT+AX]
5673 He 111 H [TT+AY]
5674 He 111 H [TT+AZ] ATG Einflug 14.12.39
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5675 He 111 H [TU+AA]
5676 He 111 H [TU+AB]
5677 He 111 H [TU+AC]
5678 He 111 H [TU+AD] ATG Einflug 14.12.39
5679 He 111 H [TU+AE]
5678 He 111 H [TU+AF]
5679 He 111 H [TU+AG]
5682 He 111 H-3 [TU+AH] ATG plate Abn. 12.39 (manufacturing month)

5683 He 111 H [TU+AI] ATG Einflug 24.01.40
5684 He 111 H [TU+AJ]
5685 He 111 H [TU+AK]
5686 He 111 H [TU+AL] ATG Einflug 02.02.40
5687 He 111 H [TU+AM]
5688 He 111 H [TU+AN]
5689 He 111 H [TU+AO]
5690 He 111 H [TU+AP] ATG Einflug 23.02.40
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5691 He 111 H [NH+NJ] ATG Einflug 23.02.40
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5692 He 111 H [TU+AQ]
5693 He 111 H [TU+AR] ATG Einflug 26.02.40
5694 He 111 H [TU+AS]
5695 He 111 H [TU+AT] ATG Einflug 26.02.40
5696 He 111 H [TU+AU] ATG Einflug 08.03.40
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5697 He 111 H [TU+AW] ATG (21.03.40)
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5701 He 111 H [NG+JL] ATG (10.04.40)
5702 He 111 H [NG+IM]
5703 He 111 H [NG+iN] ATG (10.04.40)
etc.

Again great thanks to all.
ed
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