JG 301 or ... JG 5 ?

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Hi Kjetil, and thanks a lot to debate

Originally Posted by Kjetil Aakra

Nice analysis, Menu, but I think you should have gone to bed sooner!

Originally Posted by Kjetil Aakra

"Chevron4" is not from JG5, despite your lengthy analysis. I can give you are lot of reasons, but here are the simple ones.



1. Marking style not known from JG5

2. Geschwader ID band is not black-yellow

3. Americans are in picturee, they were not at Herdl a



That's enough to dispell your notion, believe me!



Kjetil

Indeed:

1. JG5 used chevron marking style only up to the last days of the war ( and I know for sure one ‘chevron3’ marking in 1943 in Stab III./JG5 ) when not any single chevron is known among late war ( ie: with the fuselage bands ) JG301 airplanes

2. Geschwader ID band is same tone as Swastika and fuselage Balken Cross

3. How could you be 100% sure that American never send any small unit in Herdla in 1945.

Originally Posted by Kjetil Aakra

"Blue 9" is not from JG 5 bcause



1. First fuselage band is not black, see my photo! These were freshly painted on JG 5 (applied very late) and very, very black.



2. The photo is from same series as "Chevron 4" and thus not at Herdla.



Anf finally, common to both photos:



THE PHOTOS ARE NOT TAKEN AT HERDLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



...where all Fw 190s from JG5 were at the end of the war!



So, to be absolutely clear, these photos do not show JG 5 machines!



Ruy, I think you misunderstood my post. I meant to say that the forward band IS black!



Regards,



Kjetil

Indeed :

1. Dust could easily made a black band looks grey on a B&W photo.

2. I don’t know Herdla as well as you and so can’t say if there is forest or not there but the country in front of ‘blue9’ is pretty flat and well they perhaps somewhere else, a pity there wasn’t any caption on the backside from the photo to tell where we are



So I still doubt, even if not taken at Herdla…