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Old 12th September 2010, 23:44
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Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Good night, to finish work on a fallen German planes in Spain, I need to know something more of these planes that they get, if you fell for mechanical failure, stroke or any other cause and whether I can also confirm the information I have.

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Agustin Ruzafa

01/04/1944 Ju88 fallen into Palma Mca.

Helmut Sorge (d. 04/01/1944) III. / KG 26 Uffz.
Altrock Emil (died 04/14/1944) III. / KG 26 Uffz.
Lt. Herbert Bieler, disappeared.
Ogfr. Heinz Schleifer, disappeared.


Ju-88 dropped in Ibiza 07/31/1944

Karl Heinz Ugrics III. / KG 26 Uffz. Buried in Ibiza
Be part of the crew:
GFR. Friedrich Koßlers, disappeared.
Uffz. Bernhard Dehl, disappeared.
Ogfr. Johannes Hohnke, disappeared.


Ju 88 A-17 822 672 3Z + KL (fallen in Ibiza) 05/11/1944

Uffz.Fritz Kemnitzer. 3./KG77. Cemetery Ibiza. Fallen in Cap Llentrisca

Fahn. Werner Schulten, repatriated
Uffz. Gerhard Henze, wounded, repatriated
Uffz. Paul Gruninger, repatriated


JU 88 (5/11/1944) near Formentera

Leopold Reinegger III. / KG 26 Fw. Buried in Formentera
Josef Zenk III. / KG 26 Ogfr. Buried in Formentera
Heinz Sowinski III. / KG 26 Uffz. Buried in Ibiza

Uffz. Karl-Heinz Eiche, possibly same crew disappeared
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Old 13th September 2010, 09:08
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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

As a general advice, when you post a date on forums, try to put the month in letters: 1/4/44 might be 4 January 1944 ou 1 April 1944, and as you write it 1/4/44 and 4/1/44 on two lines it is confusing.

In the evening of 11 May 1944 62 bombers of I. and III./KG.26 and I./ and III./KG.77 attacked the convoy UGS 40. Beaufighter of 153 and 256 Sqn intercepted a part of the raiders, losing two of their own. The remaining German bombers attacked the convoy in four waves off Cap Bengut and claimed a destroyer and seven cargo ships sunk and more damaged. But no ship was hit in reality and 19 German aircraft were lost.

Your other losses should be recon flights, as I can find no major convoy attack on these dates.

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Old 13th September 2010, 10:10
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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

15 August 1944

7./KG 100: Ofw. Freiberg's crew shot down by ships' AA on mission to St. Raphael, interned in Spain. (Source: Ulf Balke's "Kampfgeschwader 100, Wiking."
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Old 13th September 2010, 17:26
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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Thank you very much both.
Laurent is right in what I said, it was a mistake on my part not to check the date format, hereinafter, will put the dates as you told me, thank you very much for data resolves many doubts.
Thanks Nick for the tip that gives me what I need to know something about the incidents of aircraft and crew dead and buried in Spain.
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Old 13th September 2010, 19:40
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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Back home, and checking some French books, found some more data:

1 April 1944:
Do 217s of KG 100 attacked a convoy off Cape Tenes at night. Two did not return, one crashing in flames northwest of Barcelona, the other at sea south of Baleares Island. No Allied ship was hit.
Source: Pilotes français sur l'Afrique du Nord et la Corse, by Daniel and Alain Decot

11 May 1944:
This day two Allied convoys were sailing off North Africa and among the Allied air units covering them were three French fighter groups. After two unsuccessful scrambles, two P-39 of GC I/4 "Navarre" took off from La Reghaïa at 2016 hrs and were able to catch and shot down a Ju 88 at 2030 hrs 40 miles northeast of Dellys.
More bombers followed and were intercepted by Beaufighter and Mosquitoes of 153 and 256 Sqn that claimed four bombers shot down between 2049 and 2110 hrs, and three more damaged
Source: Pilotes français sur l'Italie, by Daniel Decot

31 July 1944:
Several German recon aircraft were reported during the morning and the afternoon near two Allied convoys (code named "Gaberdine" and "Tambourine") off Algeria and unsuccessfully chased by French P-39 of GC 1/5 "Champagne", GC 3/3 "Ardennes" and GC 3/6 "Rousillon".
Torpedo-carrying Ju 88s of III./KG 26 took off at around 2200 hrs from Valence and attacked both convoys between 0015 and 0140 hrs on 1st August 1944 between Algiers and Bougie, Algaria, but without success. One German crew reported that six crews did not return from this attack.
Source: Pilotes français sur l'Italie, by Daniel Decot

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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Hello,

according info transmitted by Rémi (RT), 1 Ju-88 of III/KG77 code 3Z+AT forcelanded in Spain on 12 july 1944 apparently following attack against convoy UGS46 before Algerian coast ; I have four names for the crew but without firsts names and grades : Lanzendorf, Jordan, Schmälicke and Holländer ; if someone has more infos ?

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Old 18th September 2010, 00:14
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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Thanks a lot Laurent, a great help.

Martin will leave the information I got:
On the morning of July 12, 1944 a Ju-88A-17 III/KG77, 3Z + AT, made an emergency landing. It seems that the plane was damaged when he attacked the convoy UGS46 off the Algerian coast. The crew (Uffz. Werner Achilles, Uffz. Wilhelm Specks, Fw Gerhard Scheer and Uffz. Willi Walter) seem to have been taken to Madrid to be repatriated.

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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Ultra CX/MSS/T246/79
From GAMOZ ((Luftflotte 3)) IC. No. 2370 dated 14/7:-
Ju 88, marking 3Z+AT, crew Lanzendorf, Jordan, Schmaelicke, Hollaender of KG 77, safe in Madrid. Emergency landing, fuel shortage. Secret documents in Spanish hands. FuG 101 and MG 131 not destroyed.
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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Achilles, Specks, Scheer and Walter all MIA were the crew of Ju-88 1H+ET (WNr550285) of 9/KG26 lost on 12 july during same mission.
I would be interested by more infos on crew of 3Z+AT.

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Old 18th September 2010, 10:19
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Re: Luftwaffe planes lost in Spain

Augustin, for 31 july 1944 the crew of 1H+FT of 8/KG26 was Ugries, Oehl (or Dehl ?), Hohnke and Gefr Manfred Erler ; Kosslers was from 1H+KS of 8/KG26 fallen in sea before Beziers on 31 july

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