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Re: Uffz. and pilot loss in Sardinia Feb.26 1943
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Re: Uffz. and pilot loss in Sardinia Feb.26 1943
Here is what is written in "Fighters over Tunisia":
"Around this date Oblt. Schiess of III/JG 53 had also apparently attacked and claimed a B-17, which was not confirmed, though he had to wait some time to find out whether confirmation was likely to be forthcoming. On this date 24 B-17s had attacked a convoy off the Lipari Islands, just to the north of Sicily; one B-17 was very badly damaged during this attack, and subsequently crash-landed at its base. It is possible that this was the aircraft claimed by Schiess, but details to confirm this are not available." At this date, it seems to me that all B-17 units in MTO were based in Algeria. So to attack a target north of Sicily they may well have flown close by Cagliari, even if they did not attack it. And the above mentionned B-17 may have been attacked by Schulz rather than by Schiess. Note: the 301st BG website (www.301bg.com) reports that the mission this day was "off Palermo", so consistent with an attack on shipping north of Sicily, but has no more details. Last edited by Laurent Rizzotti; 15th October 2010 at 19:36. |
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Re: Uffz. and pilot loss in Sardinia Feb.26 1943
There's some confusion on the dates, I think. From the USAAF Combat Chronology for February 26,1943:
" B-17s, with P-38 escort attacked docks and shipping at Bizerte after Wellingtons hit same target the previous night." For Feb 27,1943: "B-17s attacked Cagliari area and ships N of Cape D'Orlando" |
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![]() There's some confusion on the dates, I think. From the USAAF Combat Chronology for February 26,1943:
" B-17s, with P-38 escort attacked docks and shipping at Bizerte after Wellingtons hit same target the previous night." For Feb 27,1943: "B-17s attacked Cagliari area and ships N of Cape D'Orlando" You re probably right. But if Sardinia was under attack by four engined US Bombers on the 6th, the 16th, the 27th and the 28th of February, -There is no MACR concerning a B-17 on this area during this period -There is no claims by US fighters on the 26th -There is no victory credited to the Luftwaffe in Sardinia (according Tony woods list) In Fébruary 1943 II./JG 51 was based in Trapani (Sicily) before transfered (once more) in Tunisia. This unit was based in Sardinia only in May (to july) Slutchz claimed only one B-17 but late in 1943. Cheers Guy |
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Re: Uffz. and pilot loss in Sardinia Feb.26 1943
Hi,
A detachment of II./J.G. 51 was indeed based on Sardinia in February 1943. The first aircraft transferred there on 8 and 9 February, and there were still three aircraft and pilots on the island on 6 March 1943. There seems to be confirmation from the German side for the combat occurring on 26 February 1943, but no confirmation from the Allied side. The Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt. loss list says that Uffz. Hans Pfluger of 4./J.G. 51 was killed at Cagliari in Bf 109 G-4 W.Nr 10895 in a crash due to enemy fire on 26 February 1943. Aders & Held state that Uffz. Hans Pflüger of 4./J.G. 51 was killed in action on 26 February 1943 at Sardinia in combat. NA HW 1 contains a report from the evening of 26 February 1943 which stated that eighteen four-engined aircraft bombed Cagliari and Elmas. Freya picked up the approaching aircraft at 14:28 at a distance of six kilometres, and four BF 109s subsequently scrambled at 14:32. Two Bf 109s landed at 15:20 and another at 15:28, while one made a forced landing after being shot up. One Boeing Fortress was shot down 50 km west of the island from an altitude of 5,000 m by Ofw. Schultz (53rd victory) (NB – This victory does not appear in the Tony Wood list). Two other Fortresses were claimed damaged. The Italian fighters made no contact. The British official history by Molony et al. notes that Cagliari was bombed on two occasions in the last week of February. However, the USAAF official history doesn’t mention the late-February raids on Sardinia at all. There is no mention of fighters involved in Pflüger’s loss, so perhaps he was hit by return fire from bombers. However, I think this combat requires a little more research before I can make any firm conclusions! Sources NA HW 1 NA HW 5 Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt. Gebhard Aders & Werner Held, Jagdgeschwader 51 ‘Mölders’: eine Chronik: Berichte, Erlebnisse, Dokumente, Motorbuch Verlag, Stuttgart, 1985. Wesley Frank Craven & James Lea Cate (eds), Army Air Forces in World War II, Volume II: Europe: TORCH to POINTBLANK, August 1942 to December 1943, University of Chicago Press, Chicago, 1949. C.J.C. Molony, F.C. Flynn, H.L. Davies & T.P. Gleave, The Mediterranean and Middle East, Volume IV: The Destruction of the Axis Forces in Africa, Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, London, 1966. Günther Rübell, Kreuze im Himmel – wie auf Erden: Fronterleben in Jagdgeschwader Mölders, Orion Heimreiter Verlag, Heusenstamm, 1980. Cheers, Andrew A. |
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