17 IX 1939 - Russian Agression on Poland

[Obst. Zerstorer]

Dear ArtieBob!

1. Of course nazi-soviet attack on Poland are well documented etc. But maybe Polish chroniclers should seek on some historical forum to propagate their history???

2. I am sure you don't know anything about polish-nazi joint agression against Tchechoslovakia in 2.10.1938 after Munchen agreement. Yes, Polish users don't like to speak a lot about it. It is awkwardly for them to condemn Stalin for alliance with Hitler when Polish authorities did the same a year earlier!


Regards

Zerstorer

Average people do not know when the WWII started and do not know that Soviets were the best Hitler's allies.

As for Hitler's allies I wrote about it above!

It is particularly important having in mind a level of ignorance as presented by Zerstoerer

What ignorance???

I would love to hear from whom areas around Ostrołęka were liberated? I would love to hear how two distinct nations of White Russia and Ukraine could have been liberated by Russia and what is the latter's claim to rule those nations?

Don't you remember WHO liberrated Vilnus, Mynsk and Kiev in 1920??? I think is was peace-loved Polish Army! Am I right? Did Poland have right to rule a half of Belarussia and Ukraine??? Sure, Poland did but USSR didn't, pharesee!

It is also not thruth that at present time Poland and Russia are political enemies. The truth is that Poland and Russia were and are ALWAYS political enemies and nothing can change the fact.

Great! Well, go speak about it on some Russian forum Polish nationalist, not here!

PS1. Not always! In the Polish People's Republic was differently. Polish people liked Soviet very much then - especially when Khrushchev, Brezhnev or Gorbatschev came on trip to Warsaw! They were always welcomed by crowds of delighted polish peope!

PS2. As historey teaches us - that was Polish authorities and noblemans who call Russian tsars on help many times in the XVIII century! So, tsars were sending Russian army into Poland and finally anarchic Poland lose its independence!

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by Obst. Zerstorer

1. Of course nazi-soviet attack on Poland are well documented etc. But maybe Polish chroniclers should seek on some historical forum to propagate their history???

This is a historical forum. You do not like it - leave it.

2. I am sure you don't know anything about polish-nazi joint agression against Tchechoslovakia in 2.10.1938 after Munchen agreement. Yes, Polish users don't like to speak a lot about it. It is awkwardly for them to condemn Stalin for alliance with Hitler when Polish authorities did the same a year earlier!

Another case of ignorance. There was no 'nazi' country but Germany. We do like to speak about it, and also why Śląsk Cieszyński was at Czech hands. The difference is that there were no Polish Einsatzkommandos nor People's Commissars murdering people there. Also, nobody is condemning Stalin for this alliance, we just want to have him responsible for outbreak of WWII and crimes against humanity on equal terms with Hitler.

What ignorance???

Complete.

Don't you remember WHO liberrated Vilnus, Mynsk and Kiev in 1920??? I think is was peace-loved Polish Army! Am I right? Did Poland have right to rule a half of Belarussia and Ukraine??? Sure, Poland did but USSR didn't, pharesee!

Yes, indeed, Poland had a right to the areas. Actually, like it happens with the neighbours, population of those areas was completelly mixed ethnicaly. Poland, Lithuania, White Russia or Ukraine may have claims for those areas but it is not the matter of neither Germany or Russia.

PS. Not always! In the Polish People's Republic was differently. Polish people liked Soviet very much then - especially when Khrushchev, Brezhnev or Gorbatschev came on trip to Warsaw! They were always welcomed by crowds of delighted polish peope!

Oh yes, certainly, you know that better out there!

As historey teaches us - that was Polish authorities and noblemans who call Russian tsars on help many times in the XVIII century! So, tsars were sending Russian army into Poland and finally anarchic Poland lose its independence!

First, democratic, not anarchic, second, it seems you have no slightest idea about Polish history.

Would you dare to reveal your name?

[Ruy Horta]

There is fact and opinion, both are present in the first post, there is no official endorsement of the second. As long as any relevant discussion is waged in a gentlemanly fashion there is no reason why it should not be allowed.

1. Unfortunately this thread is bound to run amok without constant moderating action.
2. We have a new member who does not have enough sense to understand that being new does imply you have to show a little tact.

I am left with little choice but to close this thread.