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Old 14th March 2011, 05:29
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Re: Erich Hartmann - several questions

Hi Patterns for frauds are:-

Huge claimly claims, huge number in short time, sudden excelleration in claims. However Maeseille showed this pattern, but was very honest.

Honest pilots with large overall claims seemed to do this over a long period, with relatively small maximum daily totals.

Also fraudsters seemed to make a big jump whilst approaching a significant number(look at Nowotny, Rudorffer e.t.c).

Again case against Hartmann has yet to be proved one way or other, but he fulfils all the criterior, again as did Marseille.

Also the unit they are with is an indication, Jg2 in the West, and Jg5 in the East. Jg5 pilots believed they were exiled/under equiped.

Rall, Barkhorn,Lipfert fall into the honest pattern, and our Russian friend has stated that Lipfert was honest. Point is that looking at there claims pattern I would have guessed Lipfert was honest, so presume(to be proved one way or other) that Rall and Barkhorn would be the same, though Khazanov states that Barkhorn's record is less reliable as he approached "300"=Brillanten! Barkhorn was also a special case, his claims did not need a witness, as he was so honest!!!!!! Rall had only a couple of high scoring days, and then only five was the max, and he didn't have these to get to a significant number.........Hartmann did!

Hope this helps.

Glory be to the honest guy.

Johannes
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