Response to Glider and Juha.

[MW Giles]

Mr Colvin

Have you looked at the US Air Force studies series and in particular study

175 U) The Russian Air Force in the Eyes of the German Commanders, by Walter Schwabedissen, edited by Edward P. Kennedy (1960). 434 pages.

It is interesting to read German thoughts on the Russians as presented to an American audience, but might get you further with your question about the VVS. Too much for me to summarise in a thread like this

Downloading the PDFs is free

http://www.afhra.af.mil/studies/numb...ies151-200.asp

Regards

Martin

[tcolvin]

Originally Posted by MW Giles

Mr Colvin

Have you looked at the US Air Force studies series and in particular study

175 U) The Russian Air Force in the Eyes of the German Commanders, by Walter Schwabedissen, edited by Edward P. Kennedy (1960). 434 pages.

It is interesting to read German thoughts on the Russians as presented to an American audience, but might get you further with your question about the VVS. Too much for me to summarise in a thread like this

Downloading the PDFs is free

http://www.afhra.af.mil/studies/numb...ies151-200.asp

Regards

Martin

Thank you for the reference, Martin.
I did read Schwabedissen years ago in McMaster University Library, and quoted it in an earlier posting, but never obtained a copy.
The problem is that for many, including Bill Walker, Schwabedissen is not treated as authoritative but just part of the noise.
I hope one consequence of this thread, which rarely and thankfully for those I initiate has not collapsed in acrimony, will be that someone will pick up the subject of the comparison of the VVS with the UK/US TAFs, and make sense of it. It's an important gap in our knowledge.

Tony

[Bill Walker]

Not part of the noise Tony (at least to me), but one of many different views, expressed from many different backgrounds. The truth lies somewhere in the mix. Or maybe the truth is the mix.

Schwabedissen, and others in the German high command, may have been more worried about the VVS than the RAF. And it was the Russians who got to Berlin first. But the Germans were still unable to stop the RAF in the West or the Mediterranean.