Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 22nd July 2011, 04:44
Leo Etgen Leo Etgen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,210
Leo Etgen will become famous soon enough
Me 410 or Fw 190? Carnage over Oder - again

Hi guys

Interesting topic and indeed almost certainly the particular air battle that is being discussed occurred on 22 March 1945 when III./JG 54 was battered by the 4th FG, USAAF. One point that is worthy of further discussion is which unit is being discussed - III./JG 54 or IV./JG 54. Various sources such as those listed by Malkamäki state that the unit in question was IV./JG 54 but according to the QM 6 list the unit involved was III./JG 54. According to Luftwaffe in Focus Spezial Nr. 2 when III./JG 54 was directed by the OKL operations staff to be redesignated IV./JG 26 on 7 February 1945 a new III./JG 54 was simultaneously ordered to be formed through the redesignation of II./ZG 76. Although the redesignation was supposed to be completed on 10 March 1945 it was actually completed on 18 February 1945. Therefore, until 25 February 1945 when the original III./JG 54 was redesignated IV./JG 26 there were two III./JG 54 with the new Gruppe being referred to during that time as III./JG 54 (II./ZG 76). The article specifically mentions that this new III./JG 54 has often erroneously been confused with IV./JG 54 possibly due to the wavy line marking on the rear fuselage. Incidentally, when the new III./JG 54 was disbanded on 5 April 1945 its aircraft and several of its pilots were transferred to IV./JG 51. There are images of the aircraft of the new III./JG 54 both in the above mentioned publication as well as Focke Wulf Jagdflugzeug by Peter Rodeike. An interesting account from the American side of the air battle that is the topic of this thread can be read at http://www.spitfireperformance.com/m...-22march45.jpg.

Horrido!

Leo
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Luftwaffe Losses 26th.July 1944 Brian Bines Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 3 2nd April 2011 16:19
129 Squadron (Mysore), 11th September 1943 Jan.Safarik Allied and Soviet Air Forces 3 14th March 2010 15:20
German Losses April 17th 1945 Torgau Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 20th August 2009 22:44
Spitfire losses January 22nd, 1943 Jochen Prien Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 14th September 2006 02:35
Low altitude tests: P-47 vs. Fw 190 Six Nifty .50s Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 4 20th April 2005 01:13


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 16:42.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net