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Old 23rd August 2011, 23:46
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Re: Meissler's (7./JG52) story and interrogation report

I just don`t believe in NKWD stories and Soviet propaganda.

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Old 24th August 2011, 00:29
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Re: Meissler's (7./JG52) story and interrogation report

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I just don`t believe in NKWD stories and Soviet propaganda.

Robert
Why NKWD? Intelligence section (RazvedOtdel) ot the Staff of 4.Air Army (and 56.Army, 58.Army etc).

And it is strange a bit that you don't see the difference between the routine intelligence and the propaganda.
"Propaganda", really, made a show from Meissler case. Good work, appeared even in US "Life" magazine in Nov.43. The difference from many other cases was the reality of the case.

But initial message was about Meissler's own words - in 1943 and in 1949.
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Old 24th August 2011, 00:43
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Re: Meissler's (7./JG52) story and interrogation report

Yes, yes of course not NKVD. Bullshit.
And here I can give you a good example what NKVD have made with Russians:
"Sziroka strana moja rodnaja
Mnogo w niej lesow, polej i riek
Ja drugoj takoj strany nie znaju
Gdie tak wolno dyszyt czelowiek!"
Why people hated own country? Did Meissler have a chance to tell the truth that Soviet pilots were falling from the sky like ducks? No. He did not. NKVD (or whatever) was too efficient to give him this chance. Member of my family had had this dubious pleasure to be interrogated by NKVD and he was beaten almost to dead. He did not answer any question but his interrogation protocol was full and was signed, not by him, but who cares?
Sorry I don`t believe in single word in Soviet documents.

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Old 24th August 2011, 02:27
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Re: Meissler's (7./JG52) story and interrogation report

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Did Meissler have a chance to tell the truth
Many other POW pilots said the many unpleasant things (or simply about their crash-landing due to technical problem, without enemy fire), why Meissler can't say it, if it was so? For example, he said that Soviet night air raids against his airbase were low-effective (no personal casualties, 4 a/c had some damages, almost all bombs didn't hit the airfield or fell in the center of airfield, where no a/c at night). In your logic, Meissler's only option was to say about terrible losses due to night raids.

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Yes, yes of course not NKVD. Bullshit.
Member of my family had had this dubious pleasure to be interrogated by NKVD and he was beaten almost to dead. He did not answer any question but his interrogation protocol was full and was signed, not by him, but who cares?
Robert
Really, intercourse with NKVD was a hard expirience.
As you probably understand, you don't know certainly, what is true:
1. He said nothing really (so signed document is untrue)
2. He said all he know (or most of he know) and signed the protocol, but said to family that said nothing (for obvious reason).
As you can guess, the 2nd version was most common. But maybe it isn't about your relative, yes.
It is off-topic, of course.

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Sorry I don`t believe in single word in Soviet documents.
You are living in the interesting world.

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