Fw 58 book - Badges identification/correction

[Sergio Luis dos Santos]

Second row!

[Sergio Luis dos Santos]

Last row of badges:

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

I have a very clear photo of the II./JG 77 Weihe, and it has the usual Eagle Head emblem of this unit, as seen on their Bf 109's during the invasion in Norway.

As this badge was carried on II./JG 77 aircraft from before the invasion of Norway and Denmark on April 9th 1940 and well into Barbarossa, I do not think a Weihe of this unit would carry another emblem.

If the photo was supposed to be taken before Weserübung, my guess would be that the Seagull emblem would have been seen.

Regards,
Andreas

[Peter Spoden]

Hello Sergio, thank you very much for taking care so much of our good old "Weihe" FW58. For me and thousands other young flyers In Germany the "Weihe" was the first 2-eng-plane we flew after the singles at "A/B Schule. As you know the FW 58, Ju 52, Ju 86 and FW 200 have been built for civilian purpose and got weapons later on in the war. The FW 58 was easy to fly like a glider, we called the ship the "plastic-bomber". In the East we nightfighters used the FW 58 against the slow flying russian bombers. Only trouble: the plastic burnt very easy! Good luck for your book! Regards to Rio Peter Spoden

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, Sergio

Is it the third emblem that is connected to II./JG 77? The one which resembles teh emblem used by KG 40 later?

My guess is that Your photo was taken at Værnes in Norway or another airfield connected to both KG 40 and II./JG 77 and misinterpreted.

You can send me a mail or a private message with the photo attached, and I can take a look.

PS! Will send You the JG 77 Weihe.....

Regards,
Andreas

[Sergio Luis dos Santos]

Hello Peter, thanks for your comments. I´m sure Fw 58 book will be a fine work. I have collected last days a great amount of unpublished photos, Stkz and W.Nr. listings as well as loss reports. Crossing all photos I´m being able to identify several planes. Information coming from Klaus Scheer and other pilots like Martin Drewes and yourself are fine too.

Yes Andreas, it´s the third photo. I have got several photos from II./Jg77 Weihes in various fronts and varied camo schemes. I also though it could be a Kg 40 machine but I´m still not convinced about the "world in a ring" badge. I´ll try find any info on the listings above. The photo do not shows the complete machine unfortunately. Only front part, nose and right engine.

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Peter Spoden

In the East we nightfighters used the FW 58 against the slow flying russian bombers. Only trouble: the plastic burnt very easy!

Hallo Herr Spoden!

Thank you for sharing with us your memories related to the Fw 58 'Weihe'.

What weapons did you use to hunt for those slow-flying Sobiet bombers? Were any air 'kills' achieved?

Wasn't the Weihe's nickname rather 'Leukoplast ('Band-aid') Bomber'?

[Andyf]

Hi Sergio!
Check http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/_data/divemblems/emblemsmain.htm and book:


Cheers
Andrzej

[Marc BENOIT]

Hello Sergio !

Good idea to write a book on a "forgotten" plane ! I hope you will be successful!
A little help ( I hope ) :
01 : a similar photo said to be taken on a He 111 was published years ago in Flugzeug I think but unfortunately no identification followes ....

03 : must check out my archive, but I don't think it's the emblem of KG 40

04 : given as Stab/NAG 1 in Jet & Prop 2/05 but probably all NAG 1 (?)

05 : special marking on the Seenotweihe of JG 5

10 : FFS A/B 62 : arms of the city of Quedlinburg

11 : same opinion as yours : could well be FFS A/B 4

12 : as 11 : probably a simplified version - black and white - of 2(H)/ 31's emblem

Do you have an idea of the release date of your book ?

Greetings from cold but sunny France Marc

[Sergio Luis dos Santos]

Hello Andy. I have this title by Hikoki, as well as Aufklärer and Luftwaffe Fledglings. Besides them also some old Ries books and excelent two volume set by Sven Carlsen and Michael Mayer. What I discovered is that "Emblemes" and "Fledglings" do not shows all badges, several ones on Carlsen and Meyer are not depicted. I´ll try latter discover their colours.
Thanks for your help. I also have that page in my favorites!