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Old 21st October 2005, 20:29
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Here's another that has been bugging me. On 22/11/44, US P-51s shot down an RAF Lysander from 148 Squadron near Venice, presumably having mistaken it for a Hs126. The RAF pilot was killed, as were his passengers, variously described as two British decorated SOE officers/or/ four Italian agents (according to AHB). Has anyone the facts? Who was the errant US pilot?

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Old 21st October 2005, 21:47
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Has anyone the story behind the USN PB4Y crash at Eniwetok on 9 August 1944 which destroyed dozens of parked aircraft? Not quite friendly fire but the crash certainly wrote off a substantial part of the USN air force in that area!

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Old 21st October 2005, 22:58
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

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Has anyone the story behind the USN PB4Y crash at Eniwetok on 9 August 1944 which destroyed dozens of parked aircraft? Not quite friendly fire but the crash certainly wrote off a substantial part of the USN air force in that area!

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MISHAPs: 09 AUG 44 PB4Y-1 LOCATION: (Eniwetok) STRIKE: Yes BUNO: 38766 CAUSE: Reconnaissance flight. Pilot aborted take-off due to darkness, load and rolling runway and cut throttles. Pilot thought he was still on the runway mat, but was actually airborne. With a thirty degree cross-wind plane drifted to left and into and crashed into parked carrier planes adjacent to the runway. Plane hit first row of parked airplanes, caring away wing tips off the folded wings, and canopies and crashing into parking area fifty-yards past end of runway. The plane burned, with fire spreading to other parked aircraft, low order detonation of 9 x 500lbs bombs was instrumental in extending sphere of damage to include the loss or damage of 106 aircraft. Crew: Pilot Lt Romone C. Anderson A-V(N) USNR/Killed, Ens T. M. Pettit A-V(N) USNR/Killed, Ens O. B. Tully A-V(N) USNR/(died of injuries Aug 15th, 1944), AMM1c L. Johnson USN/Seriously inj, Sea1c H. A. Heper USNR/Killed, ARM1c J. W. Chalmers USNR/Killed, ARM3c A. F. Burkhartemeyer USNR/Seriously inj, AOM2c J. D. Rothwell USNR/Killed, Sea1c A. A. Van Winkle USNR/Killed, Sea1c E. Petri USNR/Killed, and AOM3c G. A. Ehinger USNR/Killed. Contributed by Terry pb4y-2@sbcglobal.net [10FEB2002]
Source: http://www.vpnavy.org/vp116_mishap_1940.html

(By the way, http://www.vpnavy.org/mishap_vp.html is THE page to bookmark for any VP and VPB loss in WWII or later)

Well, 106 aircraft hit is amazing
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Old 22nd October 2005, 14:23
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Date is 23 September 1944

"Another accident at Millville is much different from the others. On September 23rd, 2LT Andrew J. Easterwood was killed in a crash in the Atlantic Ocean. Easterwood was the number three man of a flight of five aircraft on an aerial gunnery mission. On his fifth or sixth pass at the target, his aircraft apparently hit the target cable and began a slow roll to the right. The ship continued forward, rolled on its back and started a spiral to the right. The aircraft crashed into the ocean and was never recovered. Easterwood's aircraft crashed as the result of hitting the ¼ inch cable and not the stabilizing bar.

2LT Asa W. Shuler, one of Easterwood's closest friends, thought otherwise. Shuler had been in pilot training with Easterwood and reported to Millville at the same time. When attending his memorial service in Alabama, Shuler mentioned to a family member that he thought that Easterwood had been shot down. This would have been impossible based on the information in the accident report. All of the airplanes in the flight had fired all of their ammunition, but that same report fails to address possible defects in the airplane and health issues. We can only speculate about the cause of this unusual accident, as Shuler was killed in action in France."

http://p47millville.org/history_accidents.html
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Old 22nd October 2005, 17:57
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Hi guys

Here's something for the weekend!!

15-16/8/43 Mosquito shot down Wellington. Who was the errant pilot?

22/10/43 Mosquito shot down FIU Mosquito. Ditto

21/12/43 Two Typhoons 609 Sqn and Spitfire 501 Sqn shot down by P-47s.
Who were the US pilots?

28/3/44 Mosquito 107 Sqn shot down by P-51. Was this Lt CF Anderson 335 thFG?

23/4/44 Albemarle V1610 shot down by RAF nightfighter?

11/6/44 Mosquto 333 Sqn shot down by Allied fighters Orkneys?

28/6/44 Mosquito 192 Sqn damaged by Mosquito.

Hope someone can help with the latest. Sincere thanks. I owe you a drink!!

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Old 22nd October 2005, 19:59
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

333 Sqn loss was discussed on the RAF forums last week IIRC. Names of crew and faulty pilots were given (IIRC again).
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Old 22nd October 2005, 20:56
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Hi Laurent

Being a rather ignorant person I do not understand what you mean! Where can I find the discussion on the 333 Sqn loss? What RAF forums? And was does IIRC mean? Apologies for being dumb!

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